Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

[them_apples]

Thing with Usyk power is that he might not throw the heavy haymakers that Marciano can throw, however each one of those stinging shots may result in fractural damage, especially with the small gloves. And we do not know how Marciano would react/deal or even understand that type of devastation before having his orbital bone rearraganged since it will be very hard to catch Usyk with single type shots.

We know exactly how he would react, his nose was torn off his face by ezzard Charles and all he said when he returned to his corner was “why does it feel like I am breathing through my face”

it truly baffles me how people write Marciano off, its like they never even watched him fight. The dude is so damn strong.

[Bronson66]

Its been noted in all his books he targeted the forearms. ali told him to stop hitting his arms.

power I can�t prove with words so we can drop that one sure. Let me just say, from my own observation and brief ring experience - I personally view him as the hardest puncher on film I have ever seen. With Langford a close second and likely Shavers 3rd, but the 3rd spot is up for debate. In my opinion, not a fact.

Its not noted in Skehan,Stanton's or Sullivan's books ,all of which I have.
Point out on which pages , in which books I can find them saying Marciano deliberately targeted his opponents arms?
Provide a verified source which states Ali requested Marciano to stop hitting him on the arms?
You do know they were pulling their punches don't you?

[Bronson66]

We know exactly how he would react, his nose was torn off his face by ezzard Charles and all he said when he returned to his corner was �why does it feel like I am breathing through my face�

it truly baffles me how people write Marciano off, its like they never even watched him fight. The dude is so damn strong.

Come on,his nose wasn't torn off his face he had a slit in one side of the nose near the nostril!

image.png Please post a verified source that states Marciano said that,because it isn't in any book about him I've read.

[them_apples]

Come on,his nose wasn't torn off his face he had a slit in one side of the nose near the nostril!

He had a huge gash and it was hanging lets meet half way at least

[them_apples]

Its not noted in Skehan,Stanton's or Sullivan's books ,all of which I have.
Point out on which pages , in which books I can find them saying Marciano deliberately targeted his opponents arms?
Provide a verified source which states Ali requested Marciano to stop hitting him on the arms?
You do know they were pulling their punches don't you?

I can def dig up some sources tonight on this. Not immediately but I shall. Marciano was 100% known to target the arms and I will find this info

[Haka]

We know exactly how he would react, his nose was torn off his face by ezzard Charles and all he said when he returned to his corner was �why does it feel like I am breathing through my face�

it truly baffles me how people write Marciano off, its like they never even watched him fight. The dude is so damn strong.

Marciano is there to get hit and Usyk is going to connect and it will not be looking for a haymaker but accumulated heavy fast thudding shots to the face each time Marciano tries to chase Usyk down. Marciano will be in for a monstrous amount of punishment trying to close the gap and will not be able to deny the simple physics of the skullbone cracking under that kind of continuous pressure. Stylistically it is a bad match up for Marciano because it will not be like seek and destroy type of fight that you would expect with a boxer vs puncher type of fight. Usyk can dish out generously going backwards, even more so than going forwards since he is forced to go forwards since all the Heavies of today are scared to open up against him for the exact type of reasoning mentioned above.

[Bronson66]

I can def dig up some sources tonight on this. Not immediately but I shall. Marciano was 100% known to target the arms and I will find this info

Okay Mate.

[Bronson66]

He had a huge gash and it was hanging lets meet half way at least

I think you were a little "enthusiastic" in your description,lets put it that way. Some time ago I told another poster that on reflection I was unnecessarily harsh towards you.I shall endeavour to avoid making that mistake again.

[them_apples]

all good i'll try to source things more often. I am genuinely here to just talk boxing.

[Haka]

Tale as old as time when greatness gets denied when it is right under the noses of the public. People are still coming to terms that Usyk is already the best fighter for more than 10 years.