What Are The Greatest Boxing Stables Ever? Kronk? Eddie Futch?

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  • joseph5620
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    #11
    Originally posted by boogbx
    No love for Raza I guess? The Garcia family from Oxnard to Riverside to Nacho Beristain out of DF have resumes on par with the ATG, arguably both top 5.

    I love Kronk and wildcard but let’s stop acting as if the greatest school of boxing isn’t Mexico.

    As if it should mater but I’m not Mexican.
    It's not.

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      #12
      Originally posted by joseph5620

      It's not.
      How can it be? Mexico is a country, not a boxing stable.

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        #13
        Originally posted by max baer

        could you elaborate on your arguement. I know nothing about mexico boxing. are they a great stable now?
        Mexico is a great boxing country, second only to the United States. It's about a one fourth the size of the US and has had about one fourth the champions of the US. The difference is no one goes to Mexico to be great in boxing. People come to the Inited States from all over the world to make the big time.

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        • Willie Pep 229
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          #14
          Lou Duva has to get a nod. Out of Paterson NJ.

          I don't like the guy but he has many names attached:

          Holyfield
          Bramble
          Camacho
          Bumpus
          Whitaker
          Taylor
          Golota
          Moorer
          Gatti

          Some he trained to a championsjip, others he help steer through their second phase.

          Like I said I didn't care much for him or his son but they did produce a few champions and a few great fighters.


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            #15
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
            Lou Duva has to get a nod. Out of Paterson NJ.

            I don't like the guy but he has many names attached:

            Holyfield
            Bramble
            Camacho
            Bumpus
            Whitaker
            Taylor
            Golota
            Moorer
            Gatti

            Some he trained to a championsjip, others he help steer through their second phase.

            Like I said I didn't care much for him or his son but they did produce a few champions and a few great fighters.

            I meant to mention him earlier. He also had Vinny Pazienza early in his career. He brought a lot of guys up doing smaller shows at Totowa ice world, developing their skills.

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            • max baer
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              #16
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kearns anyone heard of this guy? He had some big names back then. a prototype stable manager?

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                #17
                Great responses! Have a hard time thinking in terms of a stable but Kronk always comes to mind.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boogbx
                  No love for Raza I guess? The Garcia family from Oxnard to Riverside to Nacho Beristain out of DF have resumes on par with the ATG, arguably both top 5.

                  I love Kronk and wildcard but let’s stop acting as if the greatest school of boxing isn’t Mexico.

                  As if it should mater but I’m not Mexican.
                  If we look at the proportion of great fighters in a country per population, Cuba smokes Mexico. Just saying

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    If we look at the proportion of great fighters in a country per population, Cuba smokes Mexico. Just saying
                    Puerto Rico? 65 world champions, only 3.2 million people.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      Puerto Rico? 65 world champions, only 3.2 million people.
                      Thats right! I tend to think of both islands together, but theya re separate and Puerto Rico might be the single most productive tradition considering relative total population. When i was a kid growing up every Domincan and Puerto Rican kid had an "uncle" or "grandfather" that they did boxing with.

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