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  • #41
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    The slapshot strategy! Did you ever see that movie? There's a scene where Paul Newman starts telling the goalie that his wife is a les bian. It had to be one of the best movies I've ever seen and that scene was particularly funny and graphic. Here you go. Great movie

    https://********/c7tvfdSjRE4?si=CIlBPYi0_a9gKlcX
    Yeah, I remember when it came out
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    • #42
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      The slapshot strategy! Did you ever see that movie? There's a scene where Paul Newman starts telling the goalie that his wife is a les bian. It had to be one of the best movies I've ever seen and that scene was particularly funny and graphic. Here you go. Great movie

      https://********/c7tvfdSjRE4?si=CIlBPYi0_a9gKlcX
      Got to make a correction to the Ty Cobb story. The ump threw BOTH guys out, then the Nats manager put his regular first baseman in
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Biledriver View Post

        Got to make a correction to the Ty Cobb story. The ump threw BOTH guys out, then the Nats manager put his regular first baseman in
        Did it go down something like this?

        "Humm mr manager, did you intend to put your batboy in as the first baseman" umpire says when reading the line up for both teams before the game... "I mean is your batboy even qualified?" "Why yes mr umpire, we practiced and practiced and practiced!" " I see and what did your batboy do in practice to make you switch your best hitter and infielder out for him?" "Oh mr Umpire!!! He showed a marked propencity to tell Mr Cobb to go f u c k himself!"

        Another great one? I forget the year, think it was early twenties, The St Louis Browns were playing I think the Philadelphia A's... And the St Louis team desperately needed a walk. They had their bad hitters coming up. The Browns manager happened to have a midget around (May have even been a one armed midget!)... I shiat you not. He substitutes the midget in to pinch hit. Turns out a midget's strike zone is very small... The midget gets the walk!

        With my memory... it was 51 and here is the story, I was thinking of another similar... But cannot remember the details.

        https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/augu...r-in-baseball/
        Last edited by billeau2; 09-15-2024, 12:34 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          Did it go down something like this?

          "Humm mr manager, did you intend to put your batboy in as the first baseman" umpire says when reading the line up for both teams before the game... "I mean is your batboy even qualified?" "Why yes mr umpire, we practiced and practiced and practiced!" " I see and what did your batboy do in practice to make you switch your best hitter and infielder out for him?" "Oh mr Umpire!!! He showed a marked propencity to tell Mr Cobb to go f u c k himself!"

          Another great one? I forget the year, think it was early twenties, The St Louis Browns were playing I think the Philadelphia A's... And the St Louis team desperately needed a walk. They had their bad hitters coming up. The Browns manager happened to have a midget around (May have even been a one armed midget!)... I shiat you not. He substitutes the midget in to pinch hit. Turns out a midget's strike zone is very small... The midget gets the walk!

          With my memory... it was 51 and here is the story, I was thinking of another similar... But cannot remember the details.

          https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/augu...r-in-baseball/
          Lot of crazy ish back in the day
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          • #45
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            Did it go down something like this?

            "Humm mr manager, did you intend to put your batboy in as the first baseman" umpire says when reading the line up for both teams before the game... "I mean is your batboy even qualified?" "Why yes mr umpire, we practiced and practiced and practiced!" " I see and what did your batboy do in practice to make you switch your best hitter and infielder out for him?" "Oh mr Umpire!!! He showed a marked propencity to tell Mr Cobb to go f u c k himself!"

            Another great one? I forget the year, think it was early twenties, The St Louis Browns were playing I think the Philadelphia A's... And the St Louis team desperately needed a walk. They had their bad hitters coming up. The Browns manager happened to have a midget around (May have even been a one armed midget!)... I shiat you not. He substitutes the midget in to pinch hit. Turns out a midget's strike zone is very small... The midget gets the walk!

            With my memory... it was 51 and here is the story, I was thinking of another similar... But cannot remember the details.

            https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/augu...r-in-baseball/
            Bill Veeck, SL Browns vs. Detroit Tigers 1951

            Got all "midgets" barred from the game.

            Anyone thinking Civil Rights law suit today?


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            • #46
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

              Bill Veeck, SL Browns vs. Detroit Tigers 1951

              Got all "midgets" barred from the game.

              Anyone thinking Civil Rights law suit today?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Biledriver View Post

                Lot of crazy ish back in the day
                Baseball is like the genre of folk music, compared to other sports. If one actually thinks it out, Cricket makes a lot more sense, Even stickball makes a lot more sense... But it became so colorful... Such a reflection of America and the particular times. And when it did grow roots, the Carribean and Japanese styles of the game are wonderful. There was a Japanese coach who wanted more efficient batting practice. He developed a way to pitch three balls simultaneously at three different batters. He was showing how he did this lol. Japanese mindset!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  So? baseball was formed out of groups of near do wells... Have you ever seen the "Old? Hoboken NJ where the first field was? It is now a mere plaque, but I did have a catch with my dad at the closest park lol.
                  There was nothing but docks and Frank Sinatra's favorite sea food joint... It was a place to dump bodies, you did not want to be caught in the area... Day, or night.
                  Like Hoboken, the game was riddled with sociopaths, angry men, and card sharks... Cheating was part of the game! Why does the fact that when one was caught there were implications mean anything? Duh yes... you got pinched if you were caught.

                  Pete Rose was probably the purest example of a throwback player from our generation... Cal Ripken, bless his heart... Was not like the Ty Cobb's, Billy Martin's, or even Greg Nettles, that used to represent the hard nose of the sport. Not saying that the Georgia Peach might not have been a good dude, but on the field? He would spike his own mudder. I know for a fact that there was one Yankee that would take a long time to sign autographs for his fans... More than even some of the other players generous with their time... That was Billy Martin.

                  I think our disagreement boils down to you thinking Durocher was in some way uncharacteristic. I do not believe he was... To me he was typical of how baseball players were before the modern era of the Japanese free agent and the 110 mile an hour fastball! lol.
                  - - Leo was an exceptional cheat who cheated his own teammates.

                  The art of cheating is not being caught, and Leo was caught out many x, and like most cheats had very few redeeming qualities save mentoring the struggling rookie Mays who benefitted hugely by Leo's centerfield telescope.

                  You and Leo would make a great pair of buddies for sure.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Leo was an exceptional cheat who cheated his own teammates.

                    The art of cheating is not being caught, and Leo was caught out many x, and like most cheats had very few redeeming qualities save mentoring the struggling rookie Mays who benefitted hugely by Leo's centerfield telescope.

                    You and Leo would make a great pair of buddies for sure.
                    Here you go again... becoming a nasty drunk over a difference of opinion. You have no proof of anything you have said, if you do? share it... show me information that point Durocher as exceptionally evil, or that he cheated his "teammates." Or, lets start with the drunken scale again to gauge your addled brain. And mentoring a rookie is not a small thing.

                    proof? Or sht the fck up you druken idiot!

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                      Here you go again... becoming a nasty drunk over a difference of opinion. You have no proof of anything you have said, if you do? share it... show me information that point Durocher as exceptionally evil, or that he cheated his "teammates." Or, lets start with the drunken scale again to gauge your addled brain. And mentoring a rookie is not a small thing.

                      proof? Or sht the fck up you druken idiot!
                      - - Not my fault U severely untutored in baseball history that explains U lack of gravitas in boxing history, but I do like U predilection for alcohol like Earnest Hemingway had

                      Just stay away from firearms.

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