Greatest moment in boxing history

[billeau2]

- - While a fantastic moment for Bobby Thompson who was born a Scotchman, it was done with the worst cheating of the notorious Leo Durocher who was so low that he used to organize poker games to cheat his teammates.

He installed a telescope in center field that allowed him to read the catcher signals to the pitcher with an electronic buzzer to his dugout coding out the expected pitch.

That was also the breakout season of Willie Mays who had been previously sent back to the minors.

You cannot hit a homerun because you know the pitcher is throwing a particular pitch, at best it gives you a slight leg up... Stealing signals has been a part of baseball, always will be. It is the same mentality as those who castigate athletes who cheat... Yeah its wrong, no doubt... But it is also a part of the game. You get together hypercompetitive individuals, who want to win at all costs... Durocher is perhaps the best example. "Nice guys finish last" lol.

[Willie Pep 229]

I think really what made Thompson's homer "special" was the hysterical call of the radio announcer permanently carving the moment into the collective psyche. "THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!" "THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!" "THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!!!"

TRUE -an important element for sure.

It had been a tremendous comeback for the Giants. At the All-Star break the Dodgers led the NL by more games than anyother team (not to eventually win the pennant) in baseball history.

The Giants had a vicious second-half run chasing the Dodgers right down to the last game of the season, and that last victory only got them to a tie for the pennant.

They won the first play-off game close but then the old Dodgers showed up in game two and blew out the Giants 10-0.

It looked like the Giants might not be able to finish off the come-back.

Come the third game, the Dodgers lead the entire game until Thompson's HR.

While it was tragedy for Dodger fans, it was the NY Giants' greatest come-back season.

So when that announcer lost his shlt on the radio, he was screaming for a million Giant fans.

Yes, that reaction gave baseball history an important sound-bite that was played over and over. That surely helped it become 'a greatest moment.'

[QueensburyRules]

You cannot hit a homerun because you know the pitcher is throwing a particular pitch, at best it gives you a slight leg up... Stealing signals has been a part of baseball, always will be. It is the same mentality as those who castigate athletes who cheat... Yeah its wrong, no doubt... But it is also a part of the game. You get together hypercompetitive individuals, who want to win at all costs... Durocher is perhaps the best example. "Nice guys finish last" lol.

- - Plenty of nicer guys than Leo were infinitely better both as hitters and mgrs. Stealing signs was a traditional crafty eyeball observation, not by telescope peeping not that anyone would want to use a telescope to peep U flaccidity...

[billeau2]

- - Plenty of nicer guys than Leo were infinitely better both as hitters and mgrs. Stealing signs was a traditional crafty eyeball observation, not by telescope peeping not that anyone would want to use a telescope to peep U flaccidity...

It is interesting that your drunken idiocy is such, you cannot be civil when you have a disagreement. That is a real lack of maturity. There is nothing wrong with your post... But you had to resort to being a drunken fool again... How well does that work for you? Is it some badge of honor? To try to be an idiot?

Now let first put you down on the drunken meter for being a nasty drunk: and let me give you an intelligent response to the part of your post meriting such: Does it matter to you whether a spy is employed to steal signs, some other type of device, or a telescope? It is the same behavoir and all have been employed in the past. Even more sophisticated technology that we have now a days has been employed. Your wrong that only "crafty eyeballs were otherwise employed" read up a little...

Durocher was not a great player or manager, did I say he was? He became famous because of his attitude, and his famous statement. Before you put his head on a pole... how about players like Sal maglioni, "the barber" who hit players regularly and deliberately? Again, its part of the game, we can take an ethical stand but your point that Durocher was exceptionally bad is wrong. At least that seems like your point, unless you think I lauded him as exceptional? Reading comprehension?

[billeau2]

TRUE -an important element for sure.

It had been a tremendous comeback for the Giants. At the All-Star break the Dodgers led the NL by more games than anyother team (not to eventually win the pennant) in baseball history.

The Giants had a vicious second-half run chasing the Dodgers right down to the last game of the season, and that last victory only got them to a tie for the pennant.

They won the first play-off game close but then the old Dodgers showed up in game two and blew out the Giants 10-0.

It looked like the Giants might not be able to finish off the come-back.

Come the third game, the Dodgers lead the entire game until Thompson's HR.

While it was tragedy for Dodger fans, it was the NY Giants' greatest come-back season.

So when that announcer lost his shlt on the radio, he was screaming for a million Giant fans.

Yes, that reaction gave baseball history an important sound-bite that was played over and over. That surely helped it become 'a greatest moment.'

WoW Pep!!! What a stat!!! I never knew that! How interesting!! baseball should be a gambler's paradise... Provided some sap provides the right odds... Many times the team that wins the series, world or pennant, is the team that gets hot during the series... This is one reason I believe the Oakland A Team, early seventies, that won it consistently in modern times was so great... My favorite example is the St Louis versus Kansas world series where Steve Balboni, a first baseman with a batting average less than 200 got hot and won the series for the Royals lol. But this pattern repeats...

Giants fans often get overshadowed by the narrative of the "Brooklyn Bums" the Dodgers who were The original inhabitants of "Mom's" basement... the basement that held the teams that could not buy a win lol. But the Bronx was a special place! Sure you had the Uptown Yankees... But for the J e ws that poured into the Grand Concourse apartments (not far from Yankee Stadium), and the Italians who just knew that Arthur avenue was the real Little Italy... The Giants were the team! Even the original Little italy in my neck of the woods East Harlem was always considered part of the Bronx... the Willis avenue bridge was hardly a walk over the East River... besides one could probably have just stepped across the water, using all the bodies dumped as stepping stones lol.

[QueensburyRules]

It is interesting that your drunken idiocy is such, you cannot be civil when you have a disagreement. That is a real lack of maturity. There is nothing wrong with your post... But you had to resort to being a drunken fool again... How well does that work for you? Is it some badge of honor? To try to be an idiot?

Now let first put you down on the drunken meter for being a nasty drunk: and let me give you an intelligent response to the part of your post meriting such: Does it matter to you whether a spy is employed to steal signs, some other type of device, or a telescope? It is the same behavoir and all have been employed in the past. Even more sophisticated technology that we have now a days has been employed. Your wrong that only "crafty eyeballs were otherwise employed" read up a little...

Durocher was not a great player or manager, did I say he was? He became famous because of his attitude, and his famous statement. Before you put his head on a pole... how about players like Sal maglioni, "the barber" who hit players regularly and deliberately? Again, its part of the game, we can take an ethical stand but your point that Durocher was exceptionally bad is wrong. At least that seems like your point, unless you think I lauded him as exceptional? Reading comprehension?

- - Do U DooDoo when hit in U thick noggin by an illegal spit ball?

Umps throw players, mgrs, and coaches out of the game for cheating all the time, same as refs do to fighters and training teams who are cheating.

[billeau2]

- - Do U DooDoo when hit in U thick noggin by an illegal spit ball?

Umps throw players, mgrs, and coaches out of the game for cheating all the time, same as refs do to fighters and training teams who are cheating.

So? baseball was formed out of groups of near do wells... Have you ever seen the "Old? Hoboken NJ where the first field was? It is now a mere plaque, but I did have a catch with my dad at the closest park lol.
There was nothing but docks and Frank Sinatra's favorite sea food joint... It was a place to dump bodies, you did not want to be caught in the area... Day, or night.
Like Hoboken, the game was riddled with sociopaths, angry men, and card sharks... Cheating was part of the game! Why does the fact that when one was caught there were implications mean anything? Duh yes... you got pinched if you were caught.

Pete Rose was probably the purest example of a throwback player from our generation... Cal Ripken, bless his heart... Was not like the Ty Cobb's, Billy Martin's, or even Greg Nettles, that used to represent the hard nose of the sport. Not saying that the Georgia Peach might not have been a good dude, but on the field? He would spike his own mudder. I know for a fact that there was one Yankee that would take a long time to sign autographs for his fans... More than even some of the other players generous with their time... That was Billy Martin.

I think our disagreement boils down to you thinking Durocher was in some way uncharacteristic. I do not believe he was... To me he was typical of how baseball players were before the modern era of the Japanese free agent and the 110 mile an hour fastball! lol.

[Biledriver]

So? baseball was formed out of groups of near do wells... Have you ever seen the "Old? Hoboken NJ where the first field was? It is now a mere plaque, but I did have a catch with my dad at the closest park lol.
There was nothing but docks and Frank Sinatra's favorite sea food joint... It was a place to dump bodies, you did not want to be caught in the area... Day, or night.
Like Hoboken, the game was riddled with sociopaths, angry men, and card sharks... Cheating was part of the game! Why does the fact that when one was caught there were implications mean anything? Duh yes... you got pinched if you were caught.

Pete Rose was probably the purest example of a throwback player from our generation... Cal Ripken, bless his heart... Was not like the Ty Cobb's, Billy Martin's, or even Greg Nettles, that used to represent the hard nose of the sport. Not saying that the Georgia Peach might not have been a good dude, but on the field? He would spike his own mudder. I know for a fact that there was one Yankee that would take a long time to sign autographs for his fans... More than even some of the other players generous with their time... That was Billy Martin.

I think our disagreement boils down to you thinking Durocher was in some way uncharacteristic. I do not believe he was... To me he was typical of how baseball players were before the modern era of the Japanese free agent and the 110 mile an hour fastball! lol.

People eventually figured out how to deal with Cobb. One game in Washington, the Nats manager started his worst bench player at first base and had his pitcher intentionally walk Cobb who was leadoff. As planned, the Nats player called Cobb's mother a wh0 re and Cobb punched him. The ump tossed both players from the game, and the Washington manager inserted his regular first baseman. Play stu pid games, win stu pid prizes.

[Biledriver]

Good job tonight, JAB!

[billeau2]

People eventually figured out how to deal with Cobb. One game in Washington, the Nats manager started his worst bench player at first base and had his pitcher intentionally walk Cobb who was leadoff. As planned, the Nats player called Cobb's mother a wh0 re and Cobb punched him. The ump tossed Cobb from the game, and the Washington manager pulled the bench player and inserted his regular first baseman. Play stu pid games, win stu pid prizes.

The slapshot strategy! Did you ever see that movie? There's a scene where Paul Newman starts telling the goalie that his wife is a les bian. It had to be one of the best movies I've ever seen and that scene was particularly funny and graphic. Here you go. Great movie

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