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  • #21
    Originally posted by them_apples View Post

    Because Greb is a gladiator, his personality would figure out ways to beat many heavyweights. Greb isnāt a fighter who would just run in a brawl with bigger men, he would overpower smaller men, run circles around larger men. One of the reasons he only had about a 40 percent Ko ratio is because he was often fighting far outside of his weight class.

    for example against a heavyweight like Holyfield, he stands a very good chance of overwhelming him for 12 rounds while Holyfield swings at air. Greb didnāt fight like any other boxer, he had moves he made up all by himself and worked them into his craft by fighting 40+ times a year. Greb was a unicorn. He was shunned by boxings largest promoters it seems, but people really donāt understand this guys personality or the type of man he was.

    against a taller heavyweight like Lewis, once again instead of only thinking about what happens if Lewis lands, consider thinking how much he may struggle hitting a short speedy buzzsaw with no fear of heavyweights. A true gladiator. He died young.
    It's ridiculous in any heavyweight scenario to believe Greb would go 12 and not get hit.

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    • #22
      Maybe Fitz and Burns, that's about it.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

        It's ridiculous in any heavyweight scenario to believe Greb would go 12 and not get hit.
        What's up stranger?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          What's up stranger?
          Hey hey! Everything is good old friend. I hope everything is well with you.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            Maybe Fitz and Burns, that's about it.
            No Marvin Hart?

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            • #26
              I would probably take Greb over Schmeling. He is a lot harder to hit than Walker was. I also think he has even chances against Corbett, a small heavyweight.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Kid Cauliflower View Post

                No Marvin Hart?
                Tough to say, but Hart was a brawler and scrappy fighter with a decent punch and solid chin. He wouldn’t try to outbox Greb, he would rough-house him and use his size to tie up and attempt to wear down Greb with brute force. If he doesn’t chase Greb around the ring, he wins the war of clinches and wrasslin’.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post

                  It's ridiculous in any heavyweight scenario to believe Greb would go 12 and not get hit.
                  not get hit hard enough or caught. A glove will make contact sure

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                    Fair question.

                    I see Fitzsimmons as a fighter who was forced to battle HWs fighters (180-190) regularly.

                    Two things come of this.

                    A career full of taking big shots from bigger men. Something Greb never really experienced save for Tunney, in the latter fights which he lost.

                    Second Fitz learned to deliver blows that could hurt bigger men, again something Greb never had the opportunity to display, or failed to display when given the opportunity.

                    I think of Fitz as a bit of a freak. Much stronger than his size and able to hit harder than most men his size.

                    I should mention here, with all these fights, including Fitz, I can see Greb being ahead on the score cards (even 'stealing' decisions over 12 rounds) but I don't see him being able to take the fights all the way home.

                    If Greb beat these guys it's going to be like his decision over Tommy Gibbons. Landing many ineffective punches that runs him up to a PTS win, but not really being able to actually hurt these men.

                    From Boxrec

                    New York Times. Greb landed "a million punches" and had the upper hand throughout. . . . One report states "...Greb threw a million punches but never hurt Gibbons as he seldom set."

                    If Greb is to beat any of these HW Champion he is going to need short ten round fights and judges to declare him a winner. I doubt he can put any of them down, including Fitz.
                    A points win is still a win. In actuality it proves who the better fighter is provided fair judging. As far as the Fitz fight goes, I think Greb wins a wide decision. There will aways be the danger of getting stopped, but I think Ruby Rob fights to upright with his hands to low. I believe Greb would move in and out landing flurries of punches. And while he may not have one punch power, those punches accumulate and do damage. At the end of the day thought no fantasy fight is provable.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      Fair question.

                      I see Fitzsimmons as a fighter who was forced to battle HWs fighters (180-190) regularly.

                      Two things come of this.

                      A career full of taking big shots from bigger men. Something Greb never really experienced save for Tunney, in the latter fights which he lost.

                      Second Fitz learned to deliver blows that could hurt bigger men, again something Greb never had the opportunity to display, or failed to display when given the opportunity.

                      I think of Fitz as a bit of a freak. Much stronger than his size and able to hit harder than most men his size.

                      I should mention here, with all these fights, including Fitz, I can see Greb being ahead on the score cards (even 'stealing' decisions over 12 rounds) but I don't see him being able to take the fights all the way home.

                      If Greb beat these guys it's going to be like his decision over Tommy Gibbons. Landing many ineffective punches that runs him up to a PTS win, but not really being able to actually hurt these men.

                      From Boxrec

                      New York Times. Greb landed "a million punches" and had the upper hand throughout. . . . One report states "...Greb threw a million punches but never hurt Gibbons as he seldom set."

                      If Greb is to beat any of these HW Champion he is going to need short ten round fights and judges to declare him a winner. I doubt he can put any of them down, including Fitz.
                      Fitz was described as a heavyweight from the waist up, with gigantic shoulders and arms formed out of steel cables (my descriptives lol) and a lightweight below the waist, with chicken legs...

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