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  • Originally posted by donkim View Post
    When you take into consideration the lack of pulse shown in many of Louis's opponents,then yes,it can be over looked.Do you recognize Joe Calzaghe as a true great?

    Ali has the better good wins and he has the better great wins and more of them.
    Joe Calzaghe is definitely 1 of the 200 greatest fighters of all time.

    Anyways, a lot of Ali's opponents were past it too:

    Sonny Liston (Still near prime in 1st fight)
    Floyd Patterson (Still near prime in 1st fight, completely past it in second fight)
    George Chuvalo (Over the hill in the 2nd fight)
    Cleveland Williams (Shot, literally)
    Zora Folley (Over the hill)

    And Archie Moore isn't even credible period. The man had 2 feet in the grave and was half buried.

    The corpse beating goes both ways.

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    • Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
      1. Lennox Lewis
      2. Joe Calzaghe
      3. Nigel Benn
      4. Chris Eubank
      5. Ricky Hatton
      6. Naseem Hamed
      7. Amir Khan
      8. Carl Froch
      9. David Haye
      10. Barry Mcguigan
      Why not just come straight out and say every British/Euro fighter that has ever fought is overrated and really just ****? None of them were ever any good.

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      • Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        Why not just come straight out and say every British/Euro fighter that has ever fought is overrated and really just ****? None of them were ever any good.
        Hey, he could have listed guys like Jimmy Wilde, Ted Kid Lewis, Freddy Welsh, and Jim Driscoll. But clearly he knew all them and how great they were, thus he dare not list them as over rated.

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        • Originally posted by Obama View Post
          Joe Calzaghe is definitely 1 of the 200 greatest fighters of all time.

          Anyways, a lot of Ali's opponents were past it too:

          Sonny Liston (Still near prime in 1st fight)
          Floyd Patterson (Still near prime in 1st fight, completely past it in second fight)
          George Chuvalo (Over the hill in the 2nd fight)
          Cleveland Williams (Shot, literally)
          Zora Folley (Over the hill)

          And Archie Moore isn't even credible period. The man had 2 feet in the grave and was half buried.

          The corpse beating goes both ways.

          200? Grow up,dunce.

          Patterson wasn't near his prime in either Ali fight.His prime ended when Sonny Liston smashed him twice,but at no point in his career was he ever shot.Patterson aged well when compared to others,he certainly was no legally blind John Henry Lewis,and he certainly was no Jack Sharkey.


          Most importantly,Moore,Chuvalo,Williams and Folley are not regarded as Ali's greatest victories.Max Schmeiling is regarded as one of louis's greatest victories and in reality he wasn't as fresh as a daisy(not in the class of Patterson either).


          For some odd reason,Billy Conn is generally regarded as a great win for Joe Louis,and when you look up on Ali's resume,you won't notice Bob Foster as one of his greatest victories.That right there tells you all you need to know.
          Last edited by donkim; 12-19-2009, 04:07 AM.

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          • Originally posted by donkim View Post
            200? Grow up,dunce.

            Patterson wasn't near his prime in either Ali fight.His prime ended when Sonny Liston smashed him twice,but at no point in his career was he ever shot.Patterson aged well when compared to others,he certainly was no legally blind John Henry Lewis,and he certainly was no Jack Sharkey.


            Most importantly,Moore,Chuvalo,Williams and Folley are not regarded as Ali's greatest victories.Max Schmeiling is regarded as one of louis's greatest victories and in reality he wasn't as fresh as a daisy(not in the class of Patterson either).


            For some odd reason,Billy Conn is generally regarded as a great win for Joe Louis,and when you look up on Ali's resume,you won't notice Bob Foster as one of his greatest victories.That right there tells you all you need to know.
            What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

            The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

            And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.

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            • Originally posted by Obama View Post
              What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

              The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

              And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.
              Poor Slimey just got owned again! Good post *****!

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              • Originally posted by Obama View Post
                What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

                The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

                And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.

                You have no such legitimate list, dunce.Don't claim to have such either.The top 100 is always the the maxium as anything more just downgrades such rankings.

                I'm no fan of foster but he generally came up against superior heavyweights during his step up.

                floyd Patterson still had a working pulse when he returned,Schmeling didn't at the time,and Schmeiling wasn't that good to begin with.Which made Louis getting schooled the way he did even more embarrassing.





                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Poor Slimey just got owned again! Good post *****!




                The fact that you would search for my posts and do this suggests how much I have really gotten into your head over the last few months.


                Do tell us how Panama Lewis wasn't in Gatti's corner early on in his career and do tell us how James Toney had many more fights at 160 after Mccallum,forgotten them have you?

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                • Originally posted by Obama View Post
                  He was prolly talking about the Barkley fight, but come now, Leonard won more than 4 rounds in the first Duran fight. Duran gave the last 2 away for free for god's sake. You're telling me Leonard only won 2 of the first 13 rounds?
                  4 may be a slight exageration but there were some very even rounds I think you would struggle to score it as simply as Duran wins 9-6 or 8-7 to be honest

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                  • Originally posted by donkim View Post
                    I said "one of" his greatest victories,not his greatest victory.I don't dispute the result of the first Leonard-Duran fight,as overrated and messy as that fight was.
                    Well I guess you mean the Barklay fight then? Not a clear win I grant you, a close fight which Duran shaded the decision with the knock down. Can't be the first time you have ever seen that happen surely? Clear gift implies a robbery, whatever your view you can't call it a robbery either way the result went.

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                    • I cannot wrap my head around that someone would say lennox lewis was ovverrated. that is idiocy. you can call lennox an underachiever for 2 fights of his but he did get his get back for those 2. He is one of the few HW's ALL TIME, that can say he has defeated everyone he has faced.

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