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  • Originally posted by Obama View Post
    This comparison isn't remotely fair. It doesn't account for prime status of fighter / opponent at all.

    Bottom line is Louis dominated his era more convincingly than Ali dominated his, based on official win/loss ratio and the manner in which the opponents were disposed. Ali fought in a better era, hence his best wins are better. That's not exactly Joe's fault. If Joe had the opportunity to fight Joe Frazier and Ken Norton, what do you think he'd do to them? Go life and death like Ali did? Highly unlikely.
    Not fair? Ali was slurring his words and coming off a 2 year layoff when he lost to a prime Holmes and it was counted.

    Let me update it, so it's "fair". Prime Ali 2-0 (2 KO) against top 10 GHOAT (against a Liston closer to prime than Schmeling), 3-1 (2 KO) past prime (against prime Frazier and Foreman).

    Prime Louis 2-1 (2 KO) against top 20 GHOAT (against prime Baer and slightly past prime Scmeling (in the first) and past prime 2nd), past prime Louis 2-1 (1 KO) (against past prime Walcott and slightly past prime Charles).

    Ali's era is regarded as the Golden Age of Heavyweights, Louis' wasn't. Not Joe's fault, but it hinders him nonetheless. You suggest as if, you think Frazier and Norton would have no shot at beating Louis. In fact, Frazier would take Louis to hell and back. Ali himself would have beaten Louis, just like Conn was, but without the stoppage.

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    • Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
      Not fair? Ali was slurring his words and coming off a 2 year layoff when he lost to a prime Holmes and it was counted.

      Let me update it, so it's "fair". Prime Ali 2-0 (2 KO) against top 10 GHOAT (against a Liston closer to prime than Schmeling), 3-1 (2 KO) past prime (against prime Frazier and Foreman).

      Prime Louis 2-1 (2 KO) against top 20 GHOAT (against prime Baer and slightly past prime Scmeling (in the first) and past prime 2nd), past prime Louis 2-1 (1 KO) (against past prime Walcott and slightly past prime Charles).

      Ali's era is regarded as the Golden Age of Heavyweights, Louis' wasn't. Not Joe's fault, but it hinders him nonetheless. You suggest as if, you think Frazier and Norton would have no shot at beating Louis. In fact, Frazier would take Louis to hell and back. Ali himself would have beaten Louis, just like Conn was, but without the stoppage.
      Liston was in worse shape than Schmeling. Liston completely fell off the wagon. His performances were disgraceful, didn't take a fighter of remotely Ali's caliber to get the job done.

      Frazier was as past it as Ali was in the 2nd and 3rd outings. His prime window was short.

      I give you Foreman.

      Schmeling wasn't past it at all when he beat Louis. If anything, Louis wasn't prime yet. Not to mention Schmeling used the help of the great Jack Johnson to get the job done. Johnson helped him out of a personal vendetta against Louis.

      Walcott was prime when Louis beat him, age has nothing to do with it. He was much better then as opposed to when he was young. Charles was prime too, just not at his best weight (He's a top 2 LHW).

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      • Originally posted by Obama View Post
        So "no working pulse" isn't as bad as shot?


        Silly dunce.No it isn't.Shot is what Jack Sharkey and Primo Carnera were at the time,lack of pulse is what Jim Braddock suffered when he faced Louis and he still knocked Louis down




        Originally posted by Obama View Post
        You'll alt your way to rigging the results before that, troll.

        Speaking of rigging

        Originally posted by Obama View Post
        Since when is vaseline used for butt sex.

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        • Originally posted by donkim View Post
          Silly dunce.No it isn't.Shot is what Jack Sharkey and Primo Carnera were at the time,lack of pulse is what Jim Braddock suffered when he faced Louis and he still knocked Louis down
          Primo was not shot. Just a year before he met Louis he beat Loughran, a fight which you've asserted was not fixed.

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            Under: Vic Darchinyan

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            • Mike ****ing Tyson, really wasn't that good at all...
              Roy Jones
              Floyd Mayweather
              Joe Calzaghe
              Jack Dempsey He was great, but should not be put up against more recent boxers...Throw that little ****er in a street fight though and he will probably eat the corpse
              Rocky Marciano Both overrated in ways and underrated in ways
              James Toney(As a heavyweight) No, just no
              Michael ****ing Spinks how did he get to fight Tyson again?

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              • Originally posted by XionComrade View Post
                Mike ****ing Tyson, really wasn't that good at all...
                Roy Jones
                Floyd Mayweather
                Joe Calzaghe
                Jack Dempsey He was great, but should not be put up against more recent boxers...Throw that little ****er in a street fight though and he will probably eat the corpse
                Rocky Marciano Both overrated in ways and underrated in ways
                James Toney(As a heavyweight) No, just no
                Michael ****ing Spinks how did he get to fight Tyson again?

                Spinks should never be considered over rated. He probably beat the best crop of fighters in the best light heavyweight era. He then went on to beat an ATG Holmes in 2 close fights. The man shouldn't be judged by one fight with Tyson.

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                • Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                  In the order they came to mind:
                  • Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
                  • Wladimir Klitschko
                  • Lennox Lewis
                  • Wilfred Benitez
                  • Benny Leonard
                  • Willie Pep
                  • Sugar Ray Leonard
                  • Pernell Whitaker
                  • Evander Holyfield
                  • Roy Jones, Jr.
                  There are lots of Actual greats in your list....NOt overrated ones
                  Please tell me why are Pep and Benny Leonard overrated? Obviously you know nothing of their career to dish these two ATGs. They are actually rated too low by some people who think they know...For actual historians they rank pretty highly.

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                  • Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                    In the order they came to mind:
                    • Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
                    • Wladimir Klitschko
                    • Lennox Lewis
                    • Wilfred Benitez
                    • [B]Benny Leonard[/B]
                    • Willie Pep
                    • Sugar Ray Leonard
                    • Pernell Whitaker
                    • Evander Holyfield
                    • Roy Jones, Jr.

                    I must have missed Leonard the first time around. Can you name a lightweight who fought a better resume of fighters?

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                    • Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                      In the order they came to mind:
                      • Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
                      • Wladimir Klitschko
                      • Lennox Lewis
                      • Wilfred Benitez
                      • Benny Leonard
                      • Willie Pep
                      • Sugar Ray Leonard
                      • Pernell Whitaker
                      • Evander Holyfield
                      • Roy Jones, Jr.
                      you're ajoke, some of the names there aren't even debattable :****you:

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