Top 10 Most OVERRATED Fighters

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Obama
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 4563
    • 978
    • 62
    • 11,854

    #191
    Originally posted by donkim
    When you take into consideration the lack of pulse shown in many of Louis's opponents,then yes,it can be over looked.Do you recognize Joe Calzaghe as a true great?

    Ali has the better good wins and he has the better great wins and more of them.
    Joe Calzaghe is definitely 1 of the 200 greatest fighters of all time.

    Anyways, a lot of Ali's opponents were past it too:

    Sonny Liston (Still near prime in 1st fight)
    Floyd Patterson (Still near prime in 1st fight, completely past it in second fight)
    George Chuvalo (Over the hill in the 2nd fight)
    Cleveland Williams (Shot, literally)
    Zora Folley (Over the hill)

    And Archie Moore isn't even credible period. The man had 2 feet in the grave and was half buried.

    The corpse beating goes both ways.

    Comment

    • BennyST
      Shhhh...
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Nov 2007
      • 9263
      • 1,036
      • 500
      • 21,301

      #192
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
      1. Lennox Lewis
      2. Joe Calzaghe
      3. Nigel Benn
      4. Chris Eubank
      5. Ricky Hatton
      6. Naseem Hamed
      7. Amir Khan
      8. Carl Froch
      9. David Haye
      10. Barry Mcguigan
      Why not just come straight out and say every British/Euro fighter that has ever fought is overrated and really just ****? None of them were ever any good.

      Comment

      • Obama
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 4563
        • 978
        • 62
        • 11,854

        #193
        Originally posted by BennyST
        Why not just come straight out and say every British/Euro fighter that has ever fought is overrated and really just ****? None of them were ever any good.
        Hey, he could have listed guys like Jimmy Wilde, Ted Kid Lewis, Freddy Welsh, and Jim Driscoll. But clearly he knew all them and how great they were, thus he dare not list them as over rated.

        Comment

        • donkim
          Banned
          • Dec 2009
          • 434
          • 69
          • 34
          • 594

          #194
          Originally posted by Obama
          Joe Calzaghe is definitely 1 of the 200 greatest fighters of all time.

          Anyways, a lot of Ali's opponents were past it too:

          Sonny Liston (Still near prime in 1st fight)
          Floyd Patterson (Still near prime in 1st fight, completely past it in second fight)
          George Chuvalo (Over the hill in the 2nd fight)
          Cleveland Williams (Shot, literally)
          Zora Folley (Over the hill)

          And Archie Moore isn't even credible period. The man had 2 feet in the grave and was half buried.

          The corpse beating goes both ways.

          200? Grow up,dunce.

          Patterson wasn't near his prime in either Ali fight.His prime ended when Sonny Liston smashed him twice,but at no point in his career was he ever shot.Patterson aged well when compared to others,he certainly was no legally blind John Henry Lewis,and he certainly was no Jack Sharkey.


          Most importantly,Moore,Chuvalo,Williams and Folley are not regarded as Ali's greatest victories.Max Schmeiling is regarded as one of louis's greatest victories and in reality he wasn't as fresh as a daisy(not in the class of Patterson either).


          For some odd reason,Billy Conn is generally regarded as a great win for Joe Louis,and when you look up on Ali's resume,you won't notice Bob Foster as one of his greatest victories.That right there tells you all you need to know.
          Last edited by donkim; 12-19-2009, 04:07 AM.

          Comment

          • Obama
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Apr 2009
            • 4563
            • 978
            • 62
            • 11,854

            #195
            Originally posted by donkim
            200? Grow up,dunce.

            Patterson wasn't near his prime in either Ali fight.His prime ended when Sonny Liston smashed him twice,but at no point in his career was he ever shot.Patterson aged well when compared to others,he certainly was no legally blind John Henry Lewis,and he certainly was no Jack Sharkey.


            Most importantly,Moore,Chuvalo,Williams and Folley are not regarded as Ali's greatest victories.Max Schmeiling is regarded as one of louis's greatest victories and in reality he wasn't as fresh as a daisy(not in the class of Patterson either).


            For some odd reason,Billy Conn is generally regarded as a great win for Joe Louis,and when you look up on Ali's resume,you won't notice Bob Foster as one of his greatest victories.That right there tells you all you need to know.
            What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

            The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

            And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.

            Comment

            • JAB5239
              Dallas Cowboys
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Dec 2007
              • 27708
              • 5,034
              • 4,436
              • 73,018

              #196
              Originally posted by Obama
              What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

              The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

              And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.
              Poor Slimey just got owned again! Good post *****!

              Comment

              • donkim
                Banned
                • Dec 2009
                • 434
                • 69
                • 34
                • 594

                #197
                Originally posted by Obama
                What's wrong with 200? Too high or too low for him? Or do you just not care about fighters rated that "low". I mean there's only been a couple million pro boxers I'm sure....

                The Schmeling Louis beat > The Patterson Ali beat

                And Billy Conn actually beat legit, top rated Heavyweights. Bob Foster didn't. That's the difference.

                You have no such legitimate list, dunce.Don't claim to have such either.The top 100 is always the the maxium as anything more just downgrades such rankings.

                I'm no fan of foster but he generally came up against superior heavyweights during his step up.

                floyd Patterson still had a working pulse when he returned,Schmeling didn't at the time,and Schmeiling wasn't that good to begin with.Which made Louis getting schooled the way he did even more embarrassing.





                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Poor Slimey just got owned again! Good post *****!




                The fact that you would search for my posts and do this suggests how much I have really gotten into your head over the last few months.


                Do tell us how Panama Lewis wasn't in Gatti's corner early on in his career and do tell us how James Toney had many more fights at 160 after Mccallum,forgotten them have you?

                Comment

                • GJC
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3636
                  • 358
                  • 124
                  • 10,699

                  #198
                  Originally posted by Obama
                  He was prolly talking about the Barkley fight, but come now, Leonard won more than 4 rounds in the first Duran fight. Duran gave the last 2 away for free for god's sake. You're telling me Leonard only won 2 of the first 13 rounds?
                  4 may be a slight exageration but there were some very even rounds I think you would struggle to score it as simply as Duran wins 9-6 or 8-7 to be honest

                  Comment

                  • GJC
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3636
                    • 358
                    • 124
                    • 10,699

                    #199
                    Originally posted by donkim
                    I said "one of" his greatest victories,not his greatest victory.I don't dispute the result of the first Leonard-Duran fight,as overrated and messy as that fight was.
                    Well I guess you mean the Barklay fight then? Not a clear win I grant you, a close fight which Duran shaded the decision with the knock down. Can't be the first time you have ever seen that happen surely? Clear gift implies a robbery, whatever your view you can't call it a robbery either way the result went.

                    Comment

                    • krazyn8tive
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7970
                      • 714
                      • 996
                      • 37,433

                      #200
                      I cannot wrap my head around that someone would say lennox lewis was ovverrated. that is idiocy. you can call lennox an underachiever for 2 fights of his but he did get his get back for those 2. He is one of the few HW's ALL TIME, that can say he has defeated everyone he has faced.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP