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  • Willie Pep 229
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    #121
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

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    Queen! You're in the path. Get hunkered down; buttoned down. Be safe.

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    • billeau2
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      #122
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - U in Tinkerbell lala land making up fantasies as realities when in fact U just another dolt who can’t follow a timeline nor understand the finances of boxing.
      Back for another hiding so soon? You are a moron and you think you have a right to post any crap with no response... You canb tinkerbell, Ginsburg, til the cows come home but until you get some sense? No amount of BS will stop your therapy moron... And now it is the finances of boxing...

      Your a hypocrite. You say it is the finances right? Yet Lewis dropped his mandatory Ruiz, who was nary a threat to anyone, to fight Michael Grant, who the FANS percieved as a dangerous opponent and was certainly more dangerous than Ruiz. Lewis, interested in legacy took the Grant fight. Yet you claim he lacks? The Klits took all their sorry mandatories... Is that how finance works?

      So no... its not all about finances and you only bring them up when it suits your innane premise(s). Sorry little man... you are getting called on your BS!!! No exit!! Sartre!!!!

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      • Willie Pep 229
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        #123
        I known nothing about the Sanders rematch.

        But if there is any truth to the story that a fighter had to gurantee a fight with the other brother before getting a fight with the first brother. Than everything about the Brothers K is wrong.

        1. It diminishes their reigns as champion.

        2. It leaves open the door to believing any nefarious story we might hear.

        How often do we encounter a fighter who admits he got beat? It takes a truly confident man to admit that.

        For me I have heard or read only a few, very few.

        Bramble referring to Santos Cardona
        Dempsey referring to Tunney
        Leonard referring to Hearns II

        That's all I can remember. Maybe there is a Max Bear quote in there somewhere.

        50 years as a prize fight fan and I can only think of those three examples.

        Has anyone read of or heard a fighter say "I don't want a rematch I can't beat him"?

        I have. One time. Harry Greb after the fifth Tunney fight. Greb addressed the crowd and said just that.

        It takes a truly confident man to admit he lost.
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-06-2024, 02:16 PM.

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        • JAB5239
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          #124
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
          I known nothing about the Sanders rematch.

          But if there is any truth to the story that a fighter had to gurantee a fight with the other brother before getting a fight with the first brother. Than everything about the Brothers K is wrong.

          1. It diminishes their reigns as champion.

          2. It leaves open the door to believing any nefarious story we might hear.

          How often do we encounter a fighter who admits he got beat? It takes a truly confident man to admit that.

          For me I have heard or read only a few, very few.

          Bramble referring to Santos Cardona
          Dempsey referring to Tunney
          Leonard referring to Hearns II

          That's all I can remember. Maybe there is a Max Bear quote in there somewhere.

          50 years as a prize fight fan and I can only think of those three examples.

          Has anyone read of or heard a fighter say "I don't want a rematch I can't beat him"?

          I have. One time. Harry Greb after the fifth Tunney fight. Greb addressed the crowd and said just that.

          It takes a truly confident man to admit he lost.
          The klits pulled the same thing with David Haye if I'm not mistaken.

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #125
            Originally posted by billeau2

            Back for another hiding so soon? You are a moron and you think you have a right to post any crap with no response... You canb tinkerbell, Ginsburg, til the cows come home but until you get some sense? No amount of BS will stop your therapy moron... And now it is the finances of boxing...

            Your a hypocrite. You say it is the finances right? Yet Lewis dropped his mandatory Ruiz, who was nary a threat to anyone, to fight Michael Grant, who the FANS percieved as a dangerous opponent and was certainly more dangerous than Ruiz. Lewis, interested in legacy took the Grant fight. Yet you claim he lacks? The Klits took all their sorry mandatories... Is that how finance works?

            So no... its not all about finances and you only bring them up when it suits your innane premise(s). Sorry little man... you are getting called on your BS!!! No exit!! Sartre!!!!
            - - Quiet nothing WBA man Ruiz has a better historical record than never proven Grant.

            Ks were never stripped whilst selling their belts to DKing like Light in the loafers Lewie. Thanks for the reminder…

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              #126
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Quiet nothing WBA man Ruiz has a better historical record than never proven Grant.

              Ks were never stripped whilst selling their belts to DKing like Light in the loafers Lewie. Thanks for the reminder…
              Funny thing, Ruiz fought better fighters than Vits.

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              • billeau2
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                #127
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Quiet nothing WBA man Ruiz has a better historical record than never proven Grant.

                Ks were never stripped whilst selling their belts to DKing like Light in the loafers Lewie. Thanks for the reminder…
                More bs lol. First of all, let's assume for the sake of argument that Ruiz had better stats. It didn't matter. Grant was considered a legitimate threat while everybody knew Lewis would beat Ruiz.

                Ks always took the easy way out. Their mandatories were usually jokes. But they can go to vulnerable morons like you and say see I fought my mandatory ;-).

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                • billeau2
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Funny thing, Ruiz fought better fighters than Vits.
                  Damn! That's actually true.

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                  • Kid Cauliflower
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    More bs lol. First of all, let's assume for the sake of argument that Ruiz had better stats. It didn't matter. Grant was considered a legitimate threat while everybody knew Lewis would beat Ruiz.

                    Ks always took the easy way out. Their mandatories were usually jokes. But they can go to vulnerable morons like you and say see I fought my mandatory ;-).
                    What the administration here forgot about or just doesn't care about is that ignorant trolls are needed as foils by the good posters. These guys like queen who point the way with the back of their necks are needed commodities on a forum. For balance they might want to bring Juggy back. Queen never travels far. Another rodent might grab his nest.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      More bs lol. First of all, let's assume for the sake of argument that Ruiz had better stats. It didn't matter. Grant was considered a legitimate threat while everybody knew Lewis would beat Ruiz.

                      Ks always took the easy way out. Their mandatories were usually jokes. But they can go to vulnerable morons like you and say see I fought my mandatory ;-).
                      - - Mandatories or no belt world where U could never even hold a Mickey Mouse belt.

                      Vits and now Usyk dominated boxing for 3 decades now with an interruption by AJ…read it and weep for thee…,

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