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  • #41
    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

    Not really agreeing with you here. The little he showed against Savarese, Golota, Etienne and Williams (before the injury) was still impressive, considering that he was already chock full of drugs by then.

    For me, Tyson was definitively shot only against McBride, in his very last fight. In fact it was then and there that he uttered the famous words, "it's not in my guts anymore".
    Only Golota. Etiene and williams were no ones. Same with Savarese. He has become a completely shot zombie when he faced lewis, a mere one round fighter who wasn’t jabbing, wasn’t trying, etc. Look at his interviews and compare them to the way he was in the80s and 90s. His mental health was horrible back then. As per his own admission instead of training for lewis he hit like 5 blunts in hawai daily.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by thebrownbomber_ View Post
      Only Golota. Etiene and williams were no ones. Same with Savarese. He has become a completely shot zombie when he faced lewis, a mere one round fighter who wasn’t jabbing, wasn’t trying, etc. Look at his interviews and compare them to the way he was in the80s and 90s. His mental health was horrible back then. As per his own admission instead of training for lewis he hit like 5 blunts in hawai daily.
      Yeah, on a mental level he surely was finished well before the Lewis farce, on that I do agree. But what impresses me is that, in such a horrible psychophysical condition, he was still showing small signs of his old greatness. Savarese, though an admittedly average fighter, was usually very durable. But an already deteriorated Tyson just blew him away. Look at his technique in that fight (before the final mayhem, of course). He aimed at Savarese's temple with the very first shot, and immediately hit the target. That's skill, and Tyson still had it even in those chaotic periods of his life.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

        I wrote "one of the best versions ever", not "the best version ever".

        Even past his prime, especially under Richie Giachetti, Tyson was still able to show glimpses of excellence. The Stewart fight was one of them.

        Another one was the Bite Fight, until the bite...
        I caught you last night, sir.

        You admitted it. All these past prime excuses for Tyson's losses, even you know better and it accidentally came out in that post unintentional or not.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by thebrownbomber_ View Post

          Don’t recommend arguing with someone who thinks Mike Tyson ducked Ray Mercer LMAO and Ike Ibeabuchi whose limelight was when tyson was suspended

          But yeah, for sure, Tyson was physically peaked in Ruddock 1 and 2 IMO. His loss to Douglas simply has to do with him draining his energy all night the ****ing a bunch of fangirls which takes the energy out of anyone (reddit incel ****** mike tyson haters wouldn’t be able to understand though).
          I can see my posts about his empty resume had quite an effect on you if you're the one who remembers them after all these years. I honestly forgot about it. Can you post those threads where I dissect Tyson's ducked resume? Because I can't find them. Thanks kid,

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          • #45
            Originally posted by BKM- View Post

            I caught you last night, sir.

            You admitted it. All these past prime excuses for Tyson's losses, even you know better and it accidentally came out in that post unintentional or not.
            You are probably mistaking me for someone else. My basic points have always been the same.

            1) Tyson's finest is 1986-88. Any version after the Rooney era is more or less inferior to that one.
            2) Even after his best, Tyson was still able to show signs of his old greatness, though sporadically.
            3) The post-jail years coincided with the beginning of the end for him, although what I stated on point 2 still applies.
            4) Tyson, in any version, was never a quitter, except for his final fight.

            So, I don't know what excuses you're referring to. Every Tyson loss was deserved, one way or another. If you don't train, you lose to Buster Douglas; if you can't manage your emotions, you snap against Holyfield. If you're addicted to Zoloft and fight only for the huge payday, Lewis will kill you. Simple as that.
            Last edited by Tatabanya; 05-04-2024, 03:27 AM.
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            • #46
              Originally posted by BKM- View Post

              I can see my posts about his empty resume had quite an effect on you if you're the one who remembers them after all these years. I honestly forgot about it. Can you post those threads where I dissect Tyson's ducked resume? Because I can't find them. Thanks kid,
              Typical redditor type response. Back to reddit, perma******.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

                You are probably mistaking me for someone else. My basic points have always been the same.

                1) Tyson's finest is 1986-88. Any version after the Rooney era is more or less inferior to that one.
                2) Even after his best, Tyson was still able to show signs of his old greatness, though sporadically.
                3) The post-jail years coincided with the beginning of the end for him, although what I stated on point 2 still applies.
                4) Tyson, in any version, was never a quitter, except for his final fight.

                So, I don't know what excuses you're referring to. Every Tyson loss was deserved, one way or another. If you don't train, you lose to Buster Douglas; if you can't manage your emotions, you snap against Holyfield. If you're addicted to Zoloft and fight only for the huge payday, Lewis will kill you. Simple as that.
                All 3 of those men you mentioned would beat any version of Mike Tyson. They're poison for his limited one dimensional style and no excuses about his losses can deny that.

                But I think we covered some good ground today. We got the truth out of you. Finally.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by thebrownbomber_ View Post

                  Typical redditor type response. Back to reddit, perma******.

                  Nice, you got all the popular lingo down pat from the popular new kids online. Very good.

                  Now, please post my old threads exposing Tyson's duck-list or let the adult men speak and sit on the sidelines so you can learn.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

                    You are probably mistaking me for someone else. My basic points have always been the same.

                    1) Tyson's finest is 1986-88. Any version after the Rooney era is more or less inferior to that one.
                    2) Even after his best, Tyson was still able to show signs of his old greatness, though sporadically.
                    3) The post-jail years coincided with the beginning of the end for him, although what I stated on point 2 still applies.
                    4) Tyson, in any version, was never a quitter, except for his final fight.

                    So, I don't know what excuses you're referring to. Every Tyson loss was deserved, one way or another. If you don't train, you lose to Buster Douglas; if you can't manage your emotions, you snap against Holyfield. If you're addicted to Zoloft and fight only for the huge payday, Lewis will kill you. Simple as that.
                    Tyson haters always have double standards.

                    ”He ducked Ray Mercer, Lewis and Holyfield beat Ray Mercer”. And Ray mercer lost to Jesse ****ing Ferguson

                    “All of Tysons wins in the 80s were against bums” while they include likes of Old Holmes, Tony Tucker, and Frank Bruno on Lennox’s resume.

                    “Tyson bit holyfield reee” while conveniently ignoring that holyfield was butting Tyson throughout the Rematch and even right before the ear bite, while every fighter who fought holyfield complained of the headbutts. Not to mention Holyfield HIMSELF bit someone in the amateurs.

                    You can’t seriously argue with those who believe 2002 tyson was the same guy as he was in the 80s. I’ve always maintained Holyfield beat the best version of mike that ever lost.

                    Most of tyson’s haters are reddit femi**** neckbeards who i guarantee are already balding in their late 20s LOL. The reason they hate Tyson is off a sham trial in 92 so they go ahead and completely disparage an all time great in honor of their favorite human being, Desiree Washington.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BKM- View Post


                      Nice, you got all the popular lingo down pat from the popular new kids online. Very good.

                      Now, please post my old threads exposing Tyson's duck-list or let the adult men speak and sit on the sidelines so you can learn.
                      Let the adult men speak? You are the one who goes around accusing everyone who thinks Tyson wasn’t a bum to be a Tyson Fanboy. I like replying to people in their own language.

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