What evidence do we have that heavyweights were too small in the past to compete today? and what determines a fighters size?

[The Defecator]

You will be relieved to know that the internet in Grand Baie is very iffy.

You Apples ,Margarino, and C Fang? can have 2 weeks of fun turning on each other.

I post on the HIstory for my own amusement and also to learn things, retirement means I have plenty of leisure time.

I post in the Lounge purely to yank the chain of right wing attack dogs because it amuses me to see how quickly they resort to calling anyone who disagrees with them, a ******,Fairy,Commie, Pinko.Marxist ,and best of all ,A Walking Glory Hole!

Judging by my last years visit to Grand Baie ,I shall have very little time to devote to such pleasantries,being fully occupied drinking Mojitos and Bohemia beer in, the Coco Loco,The Banana Bar,The Trojan Horse Bar,and the Insomnia night club.


I hope my many fans here with not be too dissapointed?

Ah! So you've noticed that the lounge is a cesspool of alt-right douchebags who are taking a break from posting at St0rmfr0nt and Caste F00tball Sad to see that kind of ******* social attitudes seeping over into the history side of things

[The Defecator]

Calling one who doesn't like gays a h*mophobe dinosaur of the Dark Ages reminds me of the church in the Dark Ages: you either comply with it or you got persecuted. Like you are obliged to like gays nowadays.

Hating gays is literally the definition of "h0mophobe". "If the shoe fits" comes to mind. While nobody can stop you from hating on other people, there ARE social (and sometimes legal) consequences, and rightly so, if you act out that hate. No one has an inherent right to act like an @sshole towards others; no one has an inherent right to act out on their bigotry. People who do are rightly labeled as the piece of shlt garbage human being that they are and suffer the consequences. Think @sshole thoughts all you like, but STFU about them and keep your bigotry in the closet where it belongs.

[them_apples]

We are not worthy of you.

Indeed you need to be grateful I am enlightening you so you may enjoy the sport of boxing more, knowing how great these old fighters were compared to the mediocre subject matter today. It used be like the colosseum in rome. Unlike Wilder Theres a reason they weren’t dressing up in suits of armor and getting tired before he enters the ring like a clown. No, **** was serious it was war. You didn’t play around and thats what made it exciting as well. 2 real fighters going at it, thinking and developing their own styles that suits their builds.

The hybrid tube bread gen zers we get today are of different stock. They are of the gay rights stock. That was their fight. Harry grebs fight was putting food in his belly, or possibly going to war in one of the most brutal theatres ever.

Give respect where respect is due. The way you talk about some of these old fighters is absurd. Especially the way you write off Marciano. They are different men then who we have today.

[N/A]

Hating gays is literally the definition of "h0mophobe". "If the shoe fits" comes to mind. While nobody can stop you from hating on other people, there ARE social (and sometimes legal) consequences, and rightly so, if you act out that hate. No one has an inherent right to act like an @sshole towards others; no one has an inherent right to act out on their bigotry. People who do are rightly labeled as the piece of shlt garbage human being that they are and suffer the consequences. Think @sshole thoughts all you like, but STFU about them and keep your bigotry in the closet where it belongs.

A gay defender talking about respecting others by insulting (disliking, even hating) - typical. But no one has an inherited obligation to like everyone and everything. So keep deluding yourself with twisted morale and open mindedness.

[Ivich]

Indeed you need to be grateful I am enlightening you so you may enjoy the sport of boxing more, knowing how great these old fighters were compared to the mediocre subject matter today. It used be like the colosseum in rome. Unlike Wilder Theres a reason they werenâÂÂt dressing up in suits of armor and getting tired before he enters the ring like a clown. No, **** was serious it was war. You didnâÂÂt play around and thats what made it exciting as well. 2 real fighters going at it, thinking and developing their own styles that suits their builds.

The hybrid tube bread gen zers we get today are of different stock. They are of the gay rights stock. That was their fight. Harry grebs fight was putting food in his belly, or possibly going to war in one of the most brutal theatres ever.

Give respect where respect is due. The way you talk about some of these old fighters is absurd. Especially the way you write off Marciano. They are different men then who we have today.

I was watching some of these great fighters on film before you were born. Louis was champ when I came into the world.I have a modest film collection and over 200 books on boxing .

I do not think I will be learning anything about these "great champs," from you.

What is it with all you Gay Haters?
What has ****sexuality to do with boxing.

N.B.I give respect to ALL pro boxers , my favourite fighter is Jack Dempsey,whom I believe was a superior version of Marciano.
I have read extensively about all the greats Gans,Walcott,Leonard,Wilde,Attell,Langford etc.

I have never written off Marciano.I've many times stated he was a great fighter,champ ,and a fine man,his imprisonment for mugging a Gay man , his later sporadic loan sharking, and his well known miserliness , not withstanding ,did you know about that?

The difference between us is I see him with ***** and all.

I see his unquenchable will to win,his great heart,his refusal to quit,his dedication, his all encompassing desire for victory,his honesty and his graciousness to his victims in their defeat. There is much to admire there!

I also see,his lack of a good defence ,his slowness afoot,his lack, due to his short arms of a jab,his poor balance,his tendency to cut.
I see his record was largely built on men past prime , and I acknowledge that was not his fault ,apart from Valdes ,whom Weill never wanted him to get anywhere near,he fought who was around,you can ask no more of a Champ.
My stance is simple I see a man 5'10 1/2" with 68" reach, a man without top end boxing skills who , due to his stature is one dimensional and can only fight one way,ie constantly coming forward dragging his opponents into a war.A man who weighed 185lbs and cut in all his major fights.
I see that man matched with modern giants 6'6" 240/ 250lbs giants with 80" reaches who can hit like a truck.
I see brave Rocky coming into these guys and getting slaughtered,either by bloody tko if the referee has his wits about him,or by dramatic ko leaving him senseless on the canvas.
My opinion of the results of these matches against giants in no way diminishes Marciano,who in many cases was the greater fighter.

[Ivich]

Ah! So you've noticed that the lounge is a cesspool of alt-right douchebags who are taking a break from posting at St0rmfr0nt and Caste F00tball Sad to see that kind of ******* social attitudes seeping over into the history side of things

I'm sure there are some nice guys there,I just haven't come across them yet!

[Ivich]

- - French Snail slurper...

What a fine raconteur you are,I wonder why you aren't in demand on chat shows ? A man who possesses your eloquence would be a natural TV pundit! A modern Orson Welles/Gore Vidal!

[The Defecator]

A gay defender talking about respecting others by insulting (disliking, even hating) - typical. But no one has an inherited obligation to like everyone and everything. So keep deluding yourself with twisted morale and open mindedness.

You're an @sshole proving your unworthiness of partaking in oxygen with civilized human beings. I'm not under any obligation to tolerate people like you who are intolerant of the existence of others who are not harming you. See Popper's Paradox. You have no inherent right to act on your bigotry, and you ARE obligated to treat your fellow human beings with basic human decency or suffer the social and or legal consequences. Don't like it? Go look up the letters TS. I'm just thankful that knuckledragging ********** POSes like you are sliding inexorable down the shltter of history where foeces belongs. Now, you've polluted my computer screen enough. Welcome to block and hope you drop the soap in jail.

[billeau2]

I want to challenge some of them more creative members... I want a thread that includes gender politics, political persuasion, Marciano, and information about authors of the past identifying as being gay. Who thinks they can do that? Oh wait a minute!!

[Slugfester]

Hating gays is literally the definition of "h0mophobe". "If the shoe fits" comes to mind. While nobody can stop you from hating on other people, there ARE social (and sometimes legal) consequences, and rightly so, if you act out that hate. No one has an inherent right to act like an @sshole towards others; no one has an inherent right to act out on their bigotry. People who do are rightly labeled as the piece of shlt garbage human being that they are and suffer the consequences. Think @sshole thoughts all you like, but STFU about them and keep your bigotry in the closet where it belongs.

Maybe you're the one who needs to STFU, halfwit. When anyone listens to you that'll be the day.