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  • max baer
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    #21
    Originally posted by Marchegiano

    I'm not inviting or baiting an argument, my response will be thank you for answering either way, but I do have some questions.

    Edit- I had a long form question but I figured I could just make a short statement and get the same effect:

    David Haye seems a bit high, to me.
    yeah that's the ganja!!!
    Last edited by max baer; 02-28-2024, 02:06 PM.

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    • JAB5239
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      #22
      Originally posted by Marchegiano

      I'm not inviting or baiting an argument, my response will be thank you for answering either way, but I do have some questions.

      Edit- I had a long form question but I figured I could just make a short statement and get the same effect:

      David Haye seems a bit high, to me.
      Lloyd Honeyghan seems to low to me considering he was at one point one of the best p4p fighters in the world. Hamed as well.

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        #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        Lloyd Honeyghan seems to low to me considering he was at one point one of the best p4p fighters in the world. Hamed as well.
        i agree with you jab. The self styled raggamuffin was absolutely brilliant and today he wears the best clothes

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        • Willie Pep 229
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          #24
          Originally posted by max baer

          good post. i remember benn really hated eubank but eubank just saw him as someone to overcome in order to move out of a maisonete flat and into a house.
          just pure money. benn really hated him.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6CfsygSmYo watch this great doc about their rivalry. if you look at 9.55 you see as eubank poses after knockout prince nasseem is watching in the crowd in a red t shirt. people say eubank inspired him and his image later on.
          I always felt Eubank's poses were a promotional tool like Ali's doubled raised arms and shuffle.

          You got to sell yourself . . . and you got to be good.

          When was the last time we saw a referee raise a fighter's single arm to denote victory?

          Ali's influence is so prevalent that every KO, by every fighter, nows ends with the fighter raising both arms in immediate celebration. No formal recognition by the referee.

          Everyone has a little bit of Ali in him, except Eubank, he had his own shtick. I liked how he was different yet still wonderfully pompous.
          Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 02-28-2024, 08:17 PM.

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            #25
            Well, don't get too hung up on placement. I didn't when I made the list.
            I rounded it to 100 and cut a lot of other excellent UK stars to do that.
            Sure, we can bump a few familiar names up a bit and others down. I like Naseem Hamed plenty. Saw him really dominate Kevin Kelley at the Garden in NY. He was great. I'm OK moving him up by popular demand, as one example. Honyghan was great too; but I was involved with Starling in those days.

            Such lists are more art than science.

            The other kind of fun you can have with a list like this is walking down the ones that might NOT be familiar, and see what made me choose them.

            Every person on this list, Flyweight to Heavyweight, could fight like hell. No lie.

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              #26
              Bunny Johnson is a guilty pleasure. Loved that guy.
              When he was right, lordy lordy he could fight.

              Haye might be a bit high.

              John Conteh was special. True, he could party as great as he could Box, but brittle hands were his worst enemy.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                I always felt Eubank's poses were a promotional tool like Ali's doubled raised arms and shuffle.

                You got to sell yourself . . . and you got to be good.

                When was the last time we saw a referee raise a fighter's single arm to denote victory?

                Ali's influence is so prevalent that every KO, by every fighter, nows ends with the fighter raising both arms in immediate celebration. No formal recognition by the referee.

                Everyone has a little bit of Ali in him, except Eubank, he had his own shtick. I liked how he was different yet still wonderfully pompous.
                you know willie i was in my late teens, early twenties during the benn vs eubank era and i recall in the pub all the punters nearly wanted benn but i liked eubank as i felt he got everyone talking and watching. I kept quiet as the whole pub wanted benn it seemed.
                I like it when a man brings something new to the table and eubank had a personality that infuriated some people but i loved his attitude. an original he is.

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                • Marchegiano
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Lloyd Honeyghan seems to low to me considering he was at one point one of the best p4p fighters in the world. Hamed as well.
                  Honeyghan was one I had named before the edit. I'm just curious how Haye outclasses a Honeyghan and by so much. But once you start going this guy, that guy and the other guy, may as well just ask about the one you reckon is high instead.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
                    Well, don't get too hung up on placement. I didn't when I made the list.
                    I rounded it to 100 and cut a lot of other excellent UK stars to do that.
                    Sure, we can bump a few familiar names up a bit and others down. I like Naseem Hamed plenty. Saw him really dominate Kevin Kelley at the Garden in NY. He was great. I'm OK moving him up by popular demand, as one example. Honyghan was great too; but I was involved with Starling in those days.

                    Such lists are more art than science.

                    The other kind of fun you can have with a list like this is walking down the ones that might NOT be familiar, and see what made me choose them.

                    Every person on this list, Flyweight to Heavyweight, could fight like hell. No lie.
                    Well said brother, very fair.

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                      #30
                      1 Jimmy Wilde
                      2 Ken Buchanan
                      3 Joe Calzaghe
                      4 Ted Kid Lewis
                      5 Bob Fitzsimmons
                      6 Lennox Lewis
                      7 Carl Froch
                      8 Jack Kid Berg
                      9 Benny Lynch
                      10 Tyson Fury

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