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  • #21
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    You have no solid basis for stating Walcott won this fight,you have only seen edited highlights.

    I have never said who won the fight,I like to think I've got enough common sense not to judge a fight on a few edited highlights which add up to about 7 minutes at most!

    My contention has always been that, no fight so close can be a robbery.just as Leonard beating Hagler was not a robbery.

    Louis was boxing under the same rules as Walcott so the fight was judged on an equal basis for both men.For the record the complete fight is NOT AVAILABLE.
    "likely not"" must have"
    Your intuition? What is that worth?

    Judging the fight on "circumstantial evidence ."is precisely what you are doing!
    As far as common sense you give yourself way too much credit. Someone with common sense does not get online every day to argue with Z year after year.

    And if you had to bet and the truth were knowable, you would bet that Walcott won. If you say any different I know you are a liar. Without knowing, you would vote that Walcott won from what you have watched. Right? Nobody is going to look at what is available of that fight and say Louis must have won. Most people are not ****** enough to think Louis won the rest of the fight other than what is shown. Don't come back with typical crap that you would never do such a thing. Because, let's suppose you have to, or you will die. You aren't betting that Louis actually won.You are betting that Walcott must have won. I already know this is true, so go ahead and lie if it is that important.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
      It should probably be GOATs, since the issue can never rest at just 1. But if you said: "In no order, it is Langford, Greb and Robinson," there would likely be less to dispute. Another way is divisional GOATs.
      A ranking of Typical or Classic G.O.A.T picks:
      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
      2. Henry Armstrong
      3. Sam Langford
      4. Wille Pep
      5. Harry Greb
      6. Benny Leonard
      7. Muhammad Ali
      8. Roberto Duran
      9. Joe Louis
      10. Manny Pacquiao
      11. Jack Dempsey
      12. Jack Johnson
      13. Mickey Walker
      14. Ezzard Charles
      15. Tony Canzoneri
      16. Marvin Hagler
      17. Gene Tunney
      18. Larry Holmes
      19. Joe Gans
      20. Sugar Ray Leonard
      21. Floyd Mayweather
      22. Julio Cesar Chavez
      23. Jimmy Wilde
      24. Rocky Marciano
      25. Carlos Monzon
      26. Lennox Lewis
      27. Alexis Arguello
      28. Stanley Ketchel
      29. Barney Ross
      30. Salvador Sanchez / Roy Jones Jr.


      Who would you add?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        A ranking of Typical or Classic G.O.A.T picks:
        1. Sugar Ray Robinson
        2. Henry Armstrong
        3. Sam Langford
        4. Wille Pep
        5. Harry Greb
        6. Benny Leonard
        7. Muhammad Ali
        8. Roberto Duran
        9. Joe Louis
        10. Manny Pacquiao
        11. Jack Dempsey
        12. Jack Johnson
        13. Mickey Walker
        14. Ezzard Charles
        15. Tony Canzoneri
        16. Marvin Hagler
        17. Gene Tunney
        18. Larry Holmes
        19. Joe Gans
        20. Sugar Ray Leonard
        21. Floyd Mayweather
        22. Julio Cesar Chavez
        23. Jimmy Wilde
        24. Rocky Marciano
        25. Carlos Monzon
        26. Lennox Lewis
        27. Alexis Arguello
        28. Stanley Ketchel
        29. Barney Ross
        30. Salvador Sanchez / Roy Jones Jr.


        Who would you add?
        The only one a relative stranger is Ross.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

          The only one a relative stranger is Ross.
          Ross was an amazing fighter with a fantastic resume. I personally would have him inside the top 20.
          Willow The Wisp Willow The Wisp likes this.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

            Ross was an amazing fighter with a fantastic resume. I personally would have him inside the top 20.
            Was McLarnin his best opponent?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

              Was McLarnin his best opponent?
              - - Henry Armstrong...

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              • #27
                Charles is too low on that list. Him beating Moore 3/3, stepping out of the lh division to become heavy champ and then going life or death with Marciano alone puts him top ten.

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                • #28
                  Also in one 12 month period he knocked out Moore, Marshall, ray and outpointed bivins. Unbelievable record

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

                    As far as common sense you give yourself way too much credit. Someone with common sense does not get online every day to argue with Z year after year.

                    And if you had to bet and the truth were knowable, you would bet that Walcott won. If you say any different I know you are a liar. Without knowing, you would vote that Walcott won from what you have watched. Right? Nobody is going to look at what is available of that fight and say Louis must have won. Most people are not ****** enough to think Louis won the rest of the fight other than what is shown. Don't come back with typical crap that you would never do such a thing. Because, let's suppose you have to, or you will die. You aren't betting that Louis actually won.You are betting that Walcott must have won. I already know this is true, so go ahead and lie if it is that important.
                    I'll just make this observation and then drop it ,and you.
                    Nat Fleischer
                    James P Dawson
                    JohnLardner
                    Red Smith
                    And seven other boxing writers voted for Louis
                    The two judges,voted for Louis.
                    The referee gave the verdict to Walcott by a single round.
                    To me that indicates .a very close fight one which ,not having seen in its entirety I am not prepared to venture a verdict on
                    Your opinion of me is as important ,and welcome to me as a piece of dog **** on my shoe.
                    I have no opinion of you, you aren't even on my radar.
                    I will correct Z's lies when I see them,I do not debate with him and neither will I do so with you in the future.You Z and Queenie are lumped together as far as I am concerned,and I wish you joy of your company.Now **** off!
                    Last edited by Ivich; 02-22-2024, 02:33 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by cfang View Post
                      Charles is too low on that list. Him beating Moore 3/3, stepping out of the lh division to become heavy champ and then going life or death with Marciano alone puts him top ten.
                      - - Ez always been top 10 LH/P4P…see IBRO…

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