Did any fighter ever look more spectacular than Roy Jones Jr?

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #101
    Originally posted by Dr. Z


    So he fought the X convict in Hopkins before he became good at middleweight, a blown up welterweight, A fighter who busted for PED's , but still considered at the point great, and a man who was very good and is 2-1 vs Roy Jones who by the way 1 punch Ko'd him early. We are talking about the PED cheater and lousy human being, Roy Jones.


    Calzaghe's best wins are Roy Jones, Bernard Hopinks , M Kessler, Jeff Lacy. He did not lose or get busted for PED's.​
    Bhop is in the HOF. Lacy is considered one of the most overhyped/biggest fraud boxers in recent US history. And thats one of his top 4 wins lmfao. Come on man you gotta be trolling me.

    And you only named 4 guys lol. You couldn't even get to 5 or 6 like I did. Thats how trash Joe's resume is like I said.

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    • Dr. Z
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      #102
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas

      Bhop is in the HOF. Lacy is considered one of the most overhyped/biggest fraud boxers in recent US history. And thats one of his top 4 wins lmfao. Come on man you gotta be trolling me.

      And you only named 4 guys lol. You couldn't even get to 5 or 6 like I did. Thats how trash Joe's resume is like I said.
      OH, you want 5 men Clalzage beat? Add Chris Eubank who was 45-2, 31 years old and was beaten by judge Roy Francis 118-110 and judge Dave Parris 118-109​ on two cards. Calzage's resume of wins is close to Roid Jones who has some embassing losses on his ledger. Wake up man.

      So he fought the X convict in Hopkins before he became good at middleweight, a blown up welterweight, A fighter who busted for PED's , but still considered at the point great, and a man who was very good and is 2-1 vs Roy Jones who by the way 1 punch Ko'd him early. We are talking about the PED cheater and lousy human being, Roy Jones.
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      Calzaghe's best wins are Roy Jones, Bernard Hopinks , M Kessler, Jeff Lacy. He did not lose or get busted for PED's.​​

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        #103
        Originally posted by Slugfester

        A goon no doubt. But so far his Fury prediction is on track. If you throw darts blindly long enough you will eventually hit the bull's eye. I think it is only about 50-50 that Fury ever fights Usyk now. He has his eye on retiring while still champion so he can always claim to be the last lineal champion, and therefore still the true champion, until his last breath in a hospital bed.
        - - Blubber want to set up the ALL ENGLAND Heavyweight Lineal Unification vs Lewie for the All Time Double Lineal Champ…only in Boxing could that occur…

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #104
          Originally posted by Dr. Z

          OH, you want 5 men Clalzage beat? Add Chris Eubank who was 45-2, 31 years old and was beaten by judge Roy Francis 118-110 and judge Dave Parris 118-109​ on two cards. Calzage's resume of wins is close to Roid Jones who has some embassing losses on his ledger. Wake up man.
          Cong**** you scrapped together 5 names. One is a 40yr old RJJ. One is a 43yr old Bhop. One is the aforementioned overhyped/fraud Lacy. One is Eubank who was mos away from retirement & hadn't had a higher level W in 3yrs.

          RJJ gots all HOFers, but somehow you got issues with all those guys but none with Joe & his 40yr old, almost retired & overhyped best W's.

          This is great trolling or Joe is related to you somehow & you actually believe all this insanity.

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          • Anthony342
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            #105
            Yes, we've already settled this. Brian Sutherland.

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            • Dr. Z
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              #106
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas

              Cong**** you scrapped together 5 names. One is a 40yr old RJJ. One is a 43yr old Bhop. One is the aforementioned overhyped/fraud Lacy. One is Eubank who was mos away from retirement & hadn't had a higher level W in 3yrs.

              RJJ gots all HOFers, but somehow you got issues with all those guys but none with Joe & his 40yr old, almost retired & overhyped best W's.

              This is great trolling or Joe is related to you somehow & you actually believe all this insanity.
              You ask for 5 names, and I gave them to you.

              Roy Jones was 39 not 40 by the way when he was left with a bloody face and soundly beaten by Clazahge. All three judges had it 118-109. Joe was past his best too.

              Both Hopkins and Jones are HOF fighters. Kessler was the #1 contender at 168. Lacy was the #3 contender. Both men were in their prime when beaten by Calzaghe. These are good wins.

              No trolling or bad information posted is allowed by me in this thread.



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                #107
                Originally posted by Dr. Z

                You ask for 5 names, and I gave them to you.

                Roy Jones was 39 not 40 by the way when he was left with a bloody face and soundly beaten by Clazahge. All three judges had it 118-109. Joe was past his best too.

                Both Hopkins and Jones are HOF fighters. Kessler was the #1 contender at 168. Lacy was the #3 contender. Both men were in their prime when beaten by Calzaghe. These are good wins.

                No trolling or bad information posted is allowed by me in this thread.


                Kessler is Zags only good win imo. I thought he lost to old man Hopkins, but even if you didn't it's not hard to imaging a younger version of Hops winning convincingly. Jones was so far past his best it shouldn't even count as a good win. It's only a usable name because he is in the HOF. Calzaghe was a good fighter. But he stayed in his comfort zone and never took any chances. His resume is very weak and his undefeated career overrated much like Vits.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z

                  You ask for 5 names, and I gave them to you.

                  Roy Jones was 39 not 40 by the way when he was left with a bloody face and soundly beaten by Clazahge. All three judges had it 118-109. Joe was past his best too.

                  Both Hopkins and Jones are HOF fighters. Kessler was the #1 contender at 168. Lacy was the #3 contender. Both men were in their prime when beaten by Calzaghe. These are good wins.

                  No trolling or bad information posted is allowed by me in this thread.


                  So... Are you inferring that Jones when he was at his best could be beaten by Calzaghe? Yes or no?

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                  • Dr. Z
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    So... Are you inferring that Jones when he was at his best could be beaten by Calzaghe? Yes or no?



                    I say no with an *. Jones jr never fought such an active guy in terms of punch out put, nor did he face a fighter with his hand speed, footwork / foot speed, and the ability to get out of the way in his punches.

                    Prime for Prime ( which neither man was in when they fought ) this is a good match up. Now for my asterisk. This assumes Roy Jones jr is clean and passes a VADA governed drug test. Roy Jones jr was busted for steroids in the right hall fight where he tested 5 times the normal limit.​ If Jones did this for a fighter of Richard Hall's medicare quality, what did he use for his other fights? Well, you tell me. I suspect he had an unfair advantage for more than just one fights. That is why he is referred to as ROID Jones. Steroids can make a man Stronger, Go up in muscle weight, a little faster, with greater muscle stamina, but as Jones will tell you it does not help you boxing chin.

                    Michalczewski knocked Hall out twice , and he was clean. Jones jr would not go near Michalczewsk​i.

                    - Dr. Z
                    Last edited by Dr. Z; 02-23-2024, 07:20 AM.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z




                      I say no with an *. Jones jr never fought such an active guy in terms of punch out put, nor did he face a fighter with his hand speed, footwork / foot speed, and the ability to get out of the way in his punches.

                      Prime for Prime ( which neither man was in when they fought ) this is a good match up. Now for my asterisk. This assumes Roy Jones jr is clean and passes a VADA governed drug test. Roy Jones jr was busted for steroids in the right hall fight where he tested 5 times the normal limit.​ If Jones did this for a fighter of Richard Hall's medicare quality, what did he use for his other fights? Well, you tell me. I suspect he had an unfair advantage for more than just one fights. That is why he is referred to as ROID Jones. Steroids can make a man Stronger, Go up in muscle weight, a little faster, with greater muscle stamina, but as Jones will tell you it does not help you boxing chin.

                      Michalczewski knocked Hall out twice , and he was clean. Jones jr would not go near Michalczewsk​i.

                      - Dr. Z
                      Come on Z... Jones was on another level regarding either opponent. Just look at the competition each man fought.

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