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Did any fighter ever look more spectacular than Roy Jones Jr?
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post
Well the average Roy Jones opponent was happy to be paid! Again Jones tested 5 x the limit and did not fight DM! Nor did he fight Benn, Barkley, Eubank, McCellan, or Nunn form 160-175.
He has no great boxing fights on his resume. But he badly Ko'd twice before the age of 36. One was a early one punch KO when both men were 35, the other was a brutal KO for a 40-9-2 fringe contender. Both me were 35 when it happed here too.
IMO Jones lost badly to the best fighter he fought in Calzaghe, Jones face was a mess in that one.
ref: Hubert Earle Julie Lederman 109-118 Terry O'Connor 109-118 Jerry Roth 109-118
Now watch the Roy Jones fans ignore these points. And how much does his PED's and business choices in boxing have to do with his success against B level oppoents? Well, I don't know it is hard to say. But he was a certified ROID abuser and 5 times the legal limit when tested which only happened ONCE.
Best case Joe might be the 6th or 7th best guy RJJ fought off the top of my head, maybe 8th or 9th idk I'd have to go thru his resume. RJJ was well past his best by the time he fought Joe. The fact beating old RJJ is one of the best things Joe ever did in boxing says everything about where these two stand among reasonable fans.
I'm not invested in the PED sh^t so argue that with someone else. I think lotsa mfers are using PEDs esp back then when testing wasn't on the radar like it is now & its not great now I think we'd both agree. RJJ was just dumb enough to get caught.
And A+ trolling cuz I'd never thought I'd be in a discussion this long about whos better between RJJ & Joe Calfookingzaghe lmfao.Slugfester likes this.
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Originally posted by kara View Post
Our beloved Queen!
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Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
A goon no doubt. But so far his Fury prediction is on track. If you throw darts blindly long enough you will eventually hit the bull's eye. I think it is only about 50-50 that Fury ever fights Usyk now. He has his eye on retiring while still champion so he can always claim to be the last lineal champion, and therefore still the true champion, until his last breath in a hospital bed.
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Well the average Roy Jones opponent was happy to be paid! Again Jones tested 5 x the limit and did not fight DM! Nor did he fight Benn, Barkley, Eubank, McCellan, or Nunn form 160-175.
He has no great boxing fights on his resume. But he badly Ko'd twice before the age of 36. One was a early one punch KO when both men were 35, the other was a brutal KO for a 40-9-2 fringe contender. Both me were 35 when it happed here too.
IMO Jones lost badly to the best fighter he fought in Calzaghe, Jones face was a mess in that one.
ref: Hubert Earle Julie Lederman 109-118 Terry O'Connor 109-118 Jerry Roth 109-118
Now watch the Roy Jones fans ignore these points. And how much does his PED's and business choices in boxing have to do with his success against B level oppoents? Well, I don't know it is hard to say. But he was a certified ROID abuser and 5 times the legal limit when tested which only happened ONCE.
Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
You so crazy lmfao.
Best case Joe might be the 6th or 7th best guy RJJ fought off the top of my head, maybe 8th or 9th idk I'd have to go thru his resume. RJJ was well past his best by the time he fought Joe. The fact beating old RJJ is one of the best things Joe ever did in boxing says everything about where these two stand among reasonable fans.
I'm not invested in the PED sh^t so argue that with someone else. I think lotsa mfers are using PEDs esp back then when testing wasn't on the radar like it is now & its not great now I think we'd both agree. RJJ was just dumb enough to get caught.
And A+ trolling cuz I'd never thought I'd be in a discussion this long about whos better between RJJ & Joe Calfookingzaghe lmfao.
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View PostWell the average Roy Jones opponent was happy to be paid! Again Jones tested 5 x the limit and did not fight DM! Nor did he fight Benn, Barkley, Eubank, McCellan, or Nunn form 160-175.
He has no great boxing fights on his resume. But he badly Ko'd twice before the age of 36. One was a early one punch KO when both men were 35, the other was a brutal KO for a 40-9-2 fringe contender. Both me were 35 when it happed here too.
IMO Jones lost badly to the best fighter he fought in Calzaghe, Jones face was a mess in that one.
ref: Hubert Earle Julie Lederman 109-118 Terry O'Connor 109-118 Jerry Roth 109-118
Now watch the Roy Jones fans ignore these points. And how much does his PED's and business choices in boxing have to do with his success against B level oppoents? Well, I don't know it is hard to say. But he was a certified ROID abuser and 5 times the legal limit when tested which only happened ONCE.
Who are the best 7 Roy fought in your opinion? Let see you name them. You brought this up, not I. And Calzahge was not at his best when he gave Jones a whipping. It was his last fight. He was going to be 37 soon.
Calzaghe fought 6 Ring ranked opponents, Jones 15.Last edited by Ivich; 02-11-2024, 01:52 PM.Eff Pandas likes this.
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Originally posted by Dr. Z View PostWho are the best 7 Roy fought in your opinion? Let see you name them. You brought this up, not I. And Calzahge was not at his best when he gave Jones a whipping. It was his last fight. He was going to be 37 soon.
Best guys RJJ fought: Obviously Bhop & Tito. Toney. McCallum. Tarver. I'd say Virgil but he might be more iffy so that puts Joe 6th or 7th.
Now give me Joe's top 5 or 6 guys with his trash ass resume.Last edited by Eff Pandas; 02-22-2024, 08:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
But somehow RJJ was at his best? RJJ was gonna be 40 soon. Holy fook this is the most insane debate I've had in a long time here lmfao.
Best guys RJJ fought: Obviously Bhop & Tito. Toney. McCallum. Tarver. I'd say Virgil but he might be more iffy so that puts Joe 6th or 7th.
Now give me Joe's top 5 or 6 guys with his trash ass resume.
So he fought the X convict in Hopkins before he became good at middleweight, a blown up welterweight, A fighter who busted for PED's , but still considered at the point great, and a man who was very good and is 2-1 vs Roy Jones who by the way 1 punch Ko'd him early. We are talking about the PED cheater and lousy human being, Roy Jones.
Calzaghe's best wins are Roy Jones, Bernard Hopinks , M Kessler, Jeff Lacy. He did not lose or get busted for PED's.
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