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  • #11
    Frazier made his weaknesses his strengths. He used his shorter stature to bob and weave and duck under his opponents punches, a style Futch helped him develop. In the early part of his career he stood up straight and walked right into his opponents. His low center of gravity allowed for some vicious hooks, one of which dropped Ali with a flash knockdown. The problem for Frazier is that he could not outslug a slugger like Foreman (honestly no one could), and he played right into Foreman's strengths. Frazier usually cut off the ring, got his man on the ropes and worked the body while taking away his legs. He couldn't maneuver Foreman. Futch claimed Frazier wasn't 100% dedicated to his training for the first Foreman fight. He was partying and while sparring with Norton, he wasn't giving it his all.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Cannot think of any more disparate physio types not to mention personalities and styles.
      What about Frazier and Rockin then?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BKM- View Post


        I'm not sure we were watching the same fights. Frazier gave Ali the worst maulings in his life and most of it happened on the inside where you claim Frazier was very weak.

        The only thing Ali gave him trouble with was pulling his head down which was an illegal move but unfortunately for Clay, doing that played right into Smoking Joe's style. Lowering his center of gravity like that usually ended up with Joe exploding upwards with a left hook.
        - - Yo, you OK?

        Making too much sense for these monkeys!

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        • #14
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          Tyson did not have to deal with fighters coming to close range because of ignorance. Then Holyfield was trained by Turner to push and unbalance Tyson by pushing on him and rendering his balance bad, thus taking the steam off his shots.
          - - Mike already off balanced and heavily sedated long before Field ever showed up…see Buster who did far better than Field…

          It’s sorta like what grade you in all over again?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post


            - - Mike already off balanced and heavily sedated long before Field ever showed up…see Buster who did far better than Field…

            It’s sorta like what grade you in all over again?
            Halfwit indeed... Douglas fought Tyson in a totally different manner, he destroyed him from the outside. the bastard maker fought and pushed Mike back on the inside.

            Now that you have your big boy pants and all WATCH fights on YOUTUBE!!!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

              Halfwit indeed... Douglas fought Tyson in a totally different manner, he destroyed him from the outside. the bastard maker fought and pushed Mike back on the inside.

              Now that you have your big boy pants and all WATCH fights on YOUTUBE!!!
              Plenty of time during the holiday weekend to watch some fights!
              billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                Halfwit indeed... Douglas fought Tyson in a totally different manner, he destroyed him from the outside. the bastard maker fought and pushed Mike back on the inside.

                Now that you have your big boy pants and all WATCH fights on YOUTUBE!!!

                - - Halfwits destroy nanowits…duh!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                  Plenty of time during the holiday weekend to watch some fights!
                  Hint hint... I doubt the halfwit takes it doe.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post


                    - - Halfwits destroy nanowits…duh!!!
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                    You know I like you... here are both fights. perfect for watching in between while gorging on turkey and football.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      Oh Ali had his way with Frazier clinching and mauling him too. Really anyone bigger than him did when they were clinching.
                      Not at all. Frazier more or less manhandled Ali in fight 1. Ali w successful in fight 2 laying on Frazier's head to break off the action. That was effective not because Ali was stronger. It worked because Tony Perez was a complete waste of space as a referee.

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