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  • #41
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    You being a fighter might have an opinion on this.

    Who is the thief? Who's the bigger thief?

    Dan Duva promoted Bramble-Mancini II. Bramble was angry because Duva (his manager's son) made Bramble (the now Champion) take parity with Ray Mancini. Both recieved $650K. Bramble felt it was racist.

    Bramble would leave the Duvas for whatever his reasons were, and signed with Don King.

    Don King began to set-up a big money showdown with Hector Camacho (Which King blew big time, but that's a story for a different time.) and staged a preliminary title defense for both fighters, called The Preamble to Bramble, in Miami, 1986.

    He promised Bramble one million for the fight but then only paid him 800K. Brambled sued for the 200K he felt he was cheated out of. Didn't collect.

    So who is the thief? Did Dan Duva screw him over by underpaying him or Don King who got him $150K more, but 200K less than he promised?

    P.S. Ever watch the opening scene to the Great White Hype, where the Don King character (S. L. Jackson) explains to his champion why he can't pay him for the fight he just won and then doesn't. Art imitating life?
    From what I've heard, I fought for Fight Night, the boxers will always lose out to the promoters and managers.

    I didn't fight for them long, but Fight Night always came through with what they promised. As did Jackie.

    No games out of them.

    King on the other hand I never heard good things about him from fighters.

    Tom Johnson and numerous other fighters never spoke well of him.

    The Duvas, while I know who they are, I never heard much about them.​

    .................Rockin'
    Last edited by Rockin'; 10-10-2023, 07:19 PM.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - So, you say Triller already owed him millions, and then you can't say that they paid him 4mil for his embarrassment vs Belfort?
      Actually, I was wrong about the number - it was 7 million.

      They gave him 2 million upfront for the McBride fight that never came off. So in order to settle a lawsuit with Evander for the remaining guarantee they gave him 5 million for Belfort.

      Hauser did a huge two-parter in the whole thing.

      Triller, Holyfield, and Trump: Did Evander Get Hustled? (Part 2) | Boxing (ib.tv)

      On April 16, 2021 (one day before Jake Paul vs. Ben Askren), Holyfield and Kevin McBride attended a press conference in Atlanta where it was announced that they would face each other on the undercard of Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos (then scheduled for June 5 at LoanDepot Park in Miami).

      McBride – best known as “the conqueror of Mike Tyson” – had last fought in 2011 when he was knocked out by Mariusz Wach at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. He’d lost six of his final seven fights and was just shy of 48 years old.

      After losing to Wach, McBride was placed on an indefinite medical suspension by the Mohegan Tribe Department of Athletic Regulation with the notation “needs neuro and MRI.” There had been no administrative change in his status since then.

      Multiple sources say that Holyfield-McBride was to have been an exhibition with neither man using best efforts to hurt the other. Informed sources say that Evander was to receive slightly more than $7,000,000 and McBride $500,000.

      Soon after Holyfield-McBride was announced, Triller moved Lopez-Kambosos to June 19. But when the new date was set, Holyfield-McBride had been taken off the card. On May 13, Triller announced that Holyfield-McBride would be rescheduled for an unspecified date in August. At the end of May, as mandated by contract, Triller sent Holyfield a substantial check as an advance. But the fight wasn’t rescheduled.

      On September 1, Holyfield filed a demand for arbitration against Triller, alleging breach of contract and demanding the unpaid portion (approximately $5,000,000) of what was to have been his purse for the exhibition against McBride. Then Oscar De La Hoya contracted COVID and Triller concluded that it could salvage its September 11 card and settle its dispute with Holyfield at the same time by making Holyfield-Belfort. McBride was paid $250,000 in step-aside money, and Holyfield-Belfort was on.
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