Did Monzon retire to avoid Hagler?

[Dr. Z]

I haven't compared Sullivan to Monzon.I listed Sullivan as among those champions who were of less than upstanding citizens.He was cited for hitting his companion,was a bully ,a racist who ducked his black challenger ,and an overbearing drunk.

I can't educate you ,nobody can educate pork.
It's strange that you have plenty of time to make silly, meaningless ripostes, but cannot find the time to post your "evidence " that Fernandez floored Monzon?

Ah. So Sullivan is equal to Monzon the murderer? And the other fighters you listed are too? You said it best, your pig sick! No, I can not educate you or pork.

[Ivich]

You did read the SI report, didn't you? The boxing used to be first rate. But that is not proof enough for you. What do you need video proof on everything?

Nope.I need you to translate what you read and post it,alternatively translate the link I posted,which I have already done. Its that simple, and no amount of BS waffling on your part is going to convince anyone otherwise.

[Ivich]

Ah. So Sullivan is equal to Monzon the murderer? And the other fighters you listed are too? You said it best, your pig sick! No, I can not educate you or pork.

Get somebody to read and explain it to you FFS!
While you're at it, post your proof Fernandez knocked Monzon down!

[QueensburyRules]

- - In their 4 yr overlap, Marv was still learning the ropes, so the question typical unstudied boxing fan…

[JAB5239]

Wow, Ivich went to town in this thread and tore Z a new one. Caught flat out making up a fight and date that never happened.

Admits, you should have banned Z for continuous lies and ignorance.

[JAB5239]

Why don't you whine and cry somewhere else? Weren't you the guy who asked several times for alts? Um, that is a yes.

By the way who are the Admits?

When will we see Incapable positing again? My money is on never.

Why did you feel the need to post my name in a thread from 6 months ago? You needing some attention today? This is what I mean when I say you stir the pot. You did the same thing with Ivich. Mods and admins take note.

You haven't named the alts you claimed Ivich used on THIS forum. Are you now accusing me of having an alt, you paranoid turd? Why don't you go to the admins with that and have them run the IP address and see how that works out.

[JAB5239]

Re-read my post again. If you do you may see I'm talking about the same banned guy. Hint, hint it's not you. It is Incapable here. In other another forum, it is Mcvey, Tony and Tonto62. I think you knew him best as Ivich. You wanted some names, right?

Once again I had zero do do with with your boy Ivich.

Now that he is gone, this Hagler vs. Monzon thread has potential!

The thread was ****** because you want to theorize Monzon ducked Hagler. It has no potential. It is only good for you that he is go so he can no longer point out your lies and or mistakes as he did in this thread.

As far as Incapable being an alt of Ivich, you have no proof whatsoever. If disagreeing with you make someone Ivich's alt than nearly the entire history section must be alts of his. You're paranoid, seek help.

[JAB5239]

This is what you call a good thread? You worrying about Ivich alts with zero proof and EVERYONE disagreeing with your ridiculous notion that Monzon retired to avoid Hagler?

What lie? The one about Jorge Fernandez fighting Monzon in December of 1966. You said you read about it in an Argentinian newspaper but avoided showing any proof. Did you forget that?

Every day you seem to post something about Ivich. I've heard you've even started messaging other posters about "what a jerk" he was. You have Ivich on the brain. Must be horrible to constantly think about someone while knowing you didn't hold a candle to their boxing knowledge.

[JAB5239]

Sport Illustrated said Fernandez floored him. Are they lying? And let's get real, you have not seen the full fight, cowboy. Talk but having no proof. You're shooting blanks.

I don't care for Ivich, I never did. But you have man love for the banned man. I will not speculate as to why. You can tell me for all I care.

Hagler vs. Monzon would have been a great fight!

You said the fought in Dec of 1966 in several posts. Am I lying or were you? You said you read it in an Argentinian newspaper yet when asked to produce it You didn't. AM I lying? And if I'm not mistaken it was Ivich who posted what sports illustrated wrote, not you. Am I lying?

[Willie Pep 229]

Which argument are you guys having, the KD, the duck, or the use of alts?

You guys look like your trying to get under eachother's skin anyway you can.

MY TWO CENTS (Even though no one asked for it.)

I always thought that if Dr. Z or Ivich ever died (literally) the other guy would feel an empty space in his life. It looks like Z feels that emptiness because of the Ban, and he wants Jab to fill the void. Jab is obliging.

May I suggest REST for both of your.

I know, I am out of line, it's really not my business, so, sorry for my pretentious behavior.

But from the outside looking in, this seems obvious.