How did Norton make it to the top level with no chin?

[them_apples]

All of his losses, outside of Fury, were by KO. His chin wasn't the worst, but it was certainly at risk against anyone with power. I remember Touch of Sleep dropped him and was coming on when that fight ended in a split decision win after five rounds because Klitschko said he was having trouble seeing due to a clash of heads.

I believe Wladmir is very blown up. He’s tall but should be skinny. His brother is naturally more sturdy in structure. Wladmir has bulked up giving the impression of being a huge heavyweight, but he is a bit like Joshua and could serve to drop 15 or so pounds of weight.

this is why these guys can’t take punches. The muscles can get bigger, you can put on weight - but the structure of the chin and skull cannot.

[kara]

I believe Wladmir is very blown up. HeâÂÂs tall but should be skinny. His brother is naturally more sturdy in structure. Wladmir has bulked up giving the impression of being a huge heavyweight, but he is a bit like Joshua and could serve to drop 15 or so pounds of weight.

this is why these guys canât take punches. The muscles can get bigger, you can put on weight - but the structure of the chin and skull cannot.

May have caused him to get winded to death in those 2 fights as well, although the Brewster fight was odd. Steward always thought his water was spiked

[QueensburyRules]

I believe Wladmir is very blown up. HeâÂÂs tall but should be skinny. His brother is naturally more sturdy in structure. Wladmir has bulked up giving the impression of being a huge heavyweight, but he is a bit like Joshua and could serve to drop 15 or so pounds of weight.

this is why these guys canât take punches. The muscles can get bigger, you can put on weight - but the structure of the chin and skull cannot.

- - You've shown in the past that you don't really understand physiology in all it's permutation and probably flunked your own physiology.

Wlad had bigger, sturdier hands than Vit, and more power. Olympic Gold in Super Heavy, and pray tell us again what division Vander won Olympic Bronze and his debut weight and his first title weights...priceless gold as always...

[billeau2]

That's a myth.He got up against Sanders and he was gassed and Brewster.

And he got up from Samuel Peter..and beat him.

Yet your humanitarian reasons do not apply? You literally have an excuse for every situation involving fighters you make nonsensical remarks about... and then, when it suits you, you become a total hypocrite with fighters you support lol. For the record: Vlad was toast against Sanders, worse off than Frazier against Foreman, or at least equivalent. And if Vlad felt like you say he did, why no rematch to Sanders? Sam Peter was shiat... No comparison when we are talking a span of Norton's career, where he was beat in his prime, all the way to the twilight of his career, against much better fighters than Brewster and Peter.

Norton was many things and among them was competative in an era when the heavyweight division was very strong.

[billeau2]

- - You've shown in the past that you don't really understand physiology in all it's permutation and probably flunked your own physiology.

Wlad had bigger, sturdier hands than Vit, and more power. Olympic Gold in Super Heavy, and pray tell us again what division Vander won Olympic Bronze and his debut weight and his first title weights...priceless gold as always...

So... How did "themapples" flunk his own physiology? lol. Proof about Wlad? Let me guess, we will never see it lol. 99% of boxing pundits accept that Vitalie was sturdier, heartier than his brother in the ring... but themapples flunked physiology? You idiot

[them_apples]

May have caused him to get winded to death in those 2 fights as well, although the Brewster fight was odd. Steward always thought his water was spiked

totally would have. Same thing happens to joshua who suffers from the same problem.

[billeau2]

May have caused him to get winded to death in those 2 fights as well, although the Brewster fight was odd. Steward always thought his water was spiked

Kara, it is obvious what "transformation" occured with Wlad. He never had the heart, the plug to get into protracted battles with tough fighters. he could always punch. Stewart taught him to hold on for dear life, so he would not be crushed by guys who were tougher, but could not match, defend against Wlad's shots.

[them_apples]

- - You've shown in the past that you don't really understand physiology in all it's permutation and probably flunked your own physiology.

Wlad had bigger, sturdier hands than Vit, and more power. Olympic Gold in Super Heavy, and pray tell us again what division Vander won Olympic Bronze and his debut weight and his first title weights...priceless gold as always...

yeah just look at the weights when they were 19 years old, that will answer the question. If one guy puts on 45 lbs and the other only 10-15 (natural weight gain from 19) then that answers your question.

wladmir was 220 in his debut (probably already lifting by then!) his brother was 236 (and didn’t even look blown up, he was skinny).

and thats just the scale, look at their faces and jaws etc

by the end of their careers both are campaigning around the same weight (245) and also factor in Vitali is taller than Wladmir.

don’t even need numbers though, just look at their physiques and how they fight. Wladmir gasses and conserves himself / has a weak jaw and Vitali has a strong jaw and doesn’t gas.

[Ivich]

Yet your humanitarian reasons do not apply? You literally have an excuse for every situation involving fighters you make nonsensical remarks about... and then, when it suits you, you become a total hypocrite with fighters you support lol. For the record: Vlad was toast against Sanders, worse off than Frazier against Foreman, or at least equivalent. And if Vlad felt like you say he did, why no rematch to Sanders? Sam Peter was shiat... No comparison when we are talking a span of Norton's career, where he was beat in his prime, all the way to the twilight of his career, against much better fighters than Brewster and Peter.

Norton was many things and among them was competative in an era when the heavyweight division was very strong.

His water wasnt spiked, that myth was disproved by Dr Margaret Goodman.

[billeau2]

His water wasnt spiked, that myth was disproved by Dr Margaret Goodman.

I never believed that rumor lol... It just was too convenient, even when it first came out. It would have truly shocked me if they had found something.