How did Toney get caught for steroids but not Holyfield?

[billeau2]

I reckon something you know. I reckon it is possible that the entire sporting world is taking ped's and just are ahead of the investigators. it must be as once some do it they raise the bar meaning you need to take ped's to compete. that is very cynical but it is possible these doctors are ahead of the testers in how to get away with it.

I have always felt that if we just let people "do" and levelled the playing field in so doing, we would essentially be where we are minus some state agency having to take the responsability away from individuals, whom may decide that fame is worth the risks. I think ultimately most professionals feel that way to one degree, or another. How would one of us feel, if we were offered the chance to compete in our field at an elite level, or, to be so so, but live comfortably when we were old?

People would quickly find the limits, the benefits, and everything else about that part of science devoted to enhancing the growth and healing mechanisms... including those anabolic products used along with other cutting edge nutritional therapies. I also think it would help older athletes heal, which should be a good thing.

[max baer]

"Texas!!! Only two things come from Texas, Steers and ******" and Queenie don't look like no cow to me! --Full Metal jacket boot camp scene, one of my favorite movie scenes ever.

yeah i love that film. when i first watched it the bootcamp scene made us laugh our heads off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TNhS81w4bM

[The D3vil]

It was standard practise to hop young kids up on HGH especially in the golden era of HGH the 80s. Let me guess, millions of dollars at stake but sports managers would rather be moral than become rich right? Laughably naive idea.

Cus obviously shot him up from the start. Tyson had all the signs, the giant hands and feet, the caveman Brow Ridge, pretty much all of his features on top of the unnatural amount of muscle mass without even lifting weights. Tyson doesn't even look like a normal human being due to all the HGH signs in his features and who knows what else he legally shot up his system and also later on hid by using clean urine with a fake peen.

Face it Tyson fanbs, Evander beat the snot out of him and humiliated him fair and square as both were using. Actually, you are arguing for Evander by implying he was clean before becoming a HW, you don't even realize it.

Dude, the reason Bobby Stewart brought Tyson to Cus because Mike was 12 years old and already 200lbs of muscle.

But I guess he was already juicing as an 11 year old in Spofford, right?

You're getting into some conspiracy theory nonsense that makes ZERO sense.

And no, I'm not "arguing for Evander", as he had been a HW for like 8 years by the time him & Tyson fought & his heart problems are pretty indicative of somebody who was using roids.

What did he get caught with?

I know his test levels were extremely high, points to steroid/PED abuse at those kind of levels.

NO HE DIDN'T.

Read the ****ing link;

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...teroid-scandal

Roy tested positive for "Ripped Fuel"

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=2782402

I used to buy that shxt from GNC

It has Androsteindione in it, which was so legal back then, that Mark McGwire used to keep it out in the open in his locker back in the day.

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[BKM-]

Dude, the reason Bobby Stewart brought Tyson to Cus because Mike was 12 years old and already 200lbs of muscle.

But I guess he was already juicing as an 11 year old in Spofford, right?

You're getting into some conspiracy theory nonsense that makes ZERO sense.

And no, I'm not "arguing for Evander", as he had been a HW for like 8 years by the time him & Tyson fought & his heart problems are pretty indicative of somebody who was using roids.

Correction, he was 13 years old and weighed 190lbs not 200, and was far from pure muscle at the start. He was a fat kid, sure he had muscles and good genes for the PED's but the problem is Tyson fans always screw around with the numbers and dates of photos.

They post pictures of a 15 year old muscled up Tyson who had been juicing for 2 full years during puberty, and then claim it was the brand new 13 year old who just met Stewart.

THIS is closer to the 13yo Tyson who just started there. Hell he may have already been having his first cycles here. Impressive specimen but nothing too crazy.
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Now the kid above doesn't have the built of 15 year old Tyson below, which ****** Tyson fans will claim was the 13 year old Tyson:
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Or worse, some of them even post a 17 or 18 year old Tyson and claim he was 13 there all to lie and make it seem like he was already a buff bodybuilder before he met the Catskills team.

[IronDanHamza]

Dude, the reason Bobby Stewart brought Tyson to Cus because Mike was 12 years old and already 200lbs of muscle.

But I guess he was already juicing as an 11 year old in Spofford, right?

You're getting into some conspiracy theory nonsense that makes ZERO sense.

And no, I'm not "arguing for Evander", as he had been a HW for like 8 years by the time him & Tyson fought & his heart problems are pretty indicative of somebody who was using roids.





Roy tested positive for "Ripped Fuel"

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=2782402

I used to buy that shxt from GNC

It has Androsteindione in it, which was so legal back then, that Mark McGwire used to keep it out in the open in his locker back in the day.

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That doesn’t explain his astronomically high test levels though.

[QueensburyRules]

That doesn’t explain his astronomically high test levels though.

- - Test press releases never gave values nor had a B sample.

Which explains your low IQ function…

[IronDanHamza]

- - Test press releases never gave values nor had a B sample.

Which explains your low IQ function…

Yes they did you fucking retard.

You just need to hurry up and die honestly, this place would be instantly better.

[QueensburyRules]

Yes they did you fucking retard.

You just need to hurry up and die honestly, this place would be instantly better.

U feeling tardy…priceless!!!

[IronDanHamza]

U feeling tardy…priceless!!!

No you just talk nonsense none stop.

They did cite Roy Jones Test levels and they were extremely high.

[TeamElite]

Roy tested positive for "Ripped Fuel"

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=2782402

I used to buy that shxt from GNC

It has Androsteindione in it, which was so legal back then, that Mark McGwire used to keep it out in the open in his locker back in the day.

67a7d262-5485-4071-9fa1-9bb49a901ee0_1.54b0637c3672e09a57f87c9f8410f760.jpg

Jesus Christ do you have learning disabilities?? Are you special needs?

I just ****ing told you he didn't "test postive for ripped fuel" or andro you clueless clown. How TF do you test positive for ripped fuel on a T:E ratio test?? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

For the THIRD TIME, read the damn link; I have literally spelled out and proven - via a controlled clinical peer reviewed study posted in the Journal of the American Medical Association - that Ripped Fuel/Andro WAS NOT the cause of Roid's failed test.

You cannot be this ******.