yeah holmes was always subordinate to ali from what i have watched at dear lake sparring sessions.
That got me thinking about how many sparring partners go on to topple their betters.
I once saw fury saying he went by himself to detroit to train with steward and i don't know if he sparred with klitschko but there are photo's of them together at the time.
Foreman sparred with liston when he was younger. I suppose now i think about it that must be the way it always is in boxing.
That's why Wilder, Joshua and all of them went to spar with Klitschko
Pernell Whitaker (Master of the non-event, "Did something happen that last round?" . . . "Almost, but then it didn't.")
Wald Klitschko ("Get your program, ya can't tell one fight from another without a program" ; "What will he do next." . . . Oh, yea, never mind.")
Muhammad Ali (Not Clay just Ali.)
Jack Johnson (His purported mastery of defense was half holding; Ali before Ali, was Ali.)
snoozers all
P.S. Yes, I often found Ali boring to watch. But sure, there are exceptions.
P.S.S. By happenstance I was in Assisi Italy, Gianfranco Rosi's birth place. A (beautiful) tourist trap town where some important dead monk and his birds are buried.
Walking the street, I notice many of the shops were suddenly (and actually in some cases) un-clerked.
The damn town went quiet. I purposely went into a store that looked empty and kept walking until I was peering into the store's dusty back room. Found three old Italian men watching a small b&w TV.
(ROSI-GOMIS for the IBF Mediterranean Middleweight Title.)
I was waved in and got to watch the local boy stall, grab, and hug his way to a W 12-UD.
It could have been the perfect day, the venue and the company were perfect, but I had to, out of respect, cheer on 12 dismal rounds of holding.
"A (beautiful) tourist trap town where some important dead monk and his birds are buried."
I love you italians so much willie even the monks are buried with their birds!
My bird wont be buried with me she says she is getting shot into space instead.
You italians are the best I love your people! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5netxSTma4E
st francis of assisi was a man i venerated so much growing up. it was his love and care of animals that i liked about him. i love animals myself especially dogs. he is the saint i pray to all my life such a kind man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franci...he_environment
I feel like Johnny Tapia after he got to 122 and up was boring. He did alot of nothing. Like going to a French Restaurant. You get a show but leave hungry.
A slightly boring subject. I guess we can use as a 'consumer advice - thread'. Which fighters not to watch unless you have severe problems falling asleep....
So here we go.
Can you name some of the dullest fighters you know?
I got:
Cory Spinks
Pernell Whitaker
John Ruiz
Eyup Can
Nikolai Valuev
and my winning sleep inducer:
SVEN OTTKE!!!
Who have you got?
PS: This thread is an offspring from a debate in another thread.
A slightly boring subject. I guess we can use as a 'consumer advice - thread'. Which fighters not to watch unless you have severe problems falling asleep....
So here we go.
Can you name some of the dullest fighters you know?
I got:
Cory Spinks
Pernell Whitaker
John Ruiz
Eyup Can
Nikolai Valuev
and my winning sleep inducer:
SVEN OTTKE!!!
Who have you got?
PS: This thread is an offspring from a debate in another thread.
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