The most impressive, evolved modern heavyweight might be James Jeffries!

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Ivich
    Banned
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jun 2013
    • 4377
    • 1,640
    • 2,302
    • 6,015

    #111
    Originally posted by billeau2

    kinda funny thing with Corbett, he lost the same way against Fitz. A big shot caught him, with Fitz it was the Solar Plexus I believe.
    Reports say Corbett gave Jeffries face quite a pasting,but when he got home with punches the 8 years younger 30lbs heavier Jeffries visibly hurt Corbett and Corbett tired in the last stages of the fight as the body shots took their toll.
    Jeffries was the original "take a licking and keep on ticking guy."
    Last edited by Ivich; 09-11-2023, 02:50 PM.

    Comment

    • billeau2
      Undisputed Champion
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Jun 2012
      • 27645
      • 6,396
      • 14,933
      • 339,839

      #112
      Originally posted by Ivich
      Reports say Corbett gave Jeffries face quite a pasting,but when he got home with punches the 8 years younger 30lbs heavier Jeffries visibly hurt Corbett and Corbett tired in the last stages of the fight as the body shots took their toll.
      Jeffries was the original "take a licking and keep on ticking guy."
      Yeah the game had variables then guys don't need to worry about now. Having done martial arts and fighting, and breaking virtually every finger on my hands at one time, or another, I often wonder what a guy did when he broke his hand. You were fcked lol. I mean in karate we could kick and use elbows and such...

      I am thinking that one could, when obviously losing the fight, opt to throw a big shot knowing the potential to injure the hand and willing to take the chance. We do know that in both fights Corbett was getting the better of his man.

      Comment

      • QueensburyRules
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • May 2018
        • 21822
        • 2,352
        • 17
        • 187,708

        #113
        Originally posted by Ivich
        image.pngThirty pounds size difference​.Jeffries arms look as big as Corbett's legs"
        • James J. Jeffries
        • From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        Jeffries stood 6 ft (1.83 m) tall and weighed 225 pounds​
        Brady to Jeffries,in the corner after the 19th round.

        "YOUR ONLY CHANCE IS TO KNOCK HIM OUT,FORGET EVERYTHING ABOUT BOXING AND GO OUT AND FIGHT" JIM JEFFRIES IN HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY. "

        "Corbett bore no marks save a slight cut over the left ear
        Both of Jeffries eyes were black and swollen.His right ear was badly swollen and his lips were bruised and puffy,almost level with the end of his nose"
        The New York Tribune."Corbett had an excellent chance of winning if it had gone the distance.Jeffries was clearly outboxed."
        The New York Clipper. "had a decision been given on points Corbett would in all likelyhood have received it received it"

        The Journal ,"up to the 20th rd ,no one inJeffries corner thought he would win."
        Brookly Eagle.Staff Writer, " barring a knockout blow it was a certainty that Corbett would receive the decision."
        The National Police Gazette."Up to the time of the knockout ,no one would dispute that Corbett had the best of the battle on points".
        - - Corbett #1 Cheekiest hvy in history.

        WHO #2?

        Comment

        • Willie Pep 229
          hic sunt dracone
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Mar 2020
          • 6339
          • 2,819
          • 2,762
          • 29,169

          #114
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Corbett #1 Cheekiest hvy in history.

          WHO #2?
          Camacho

          Comment

          • Dr. Z
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Dec 2020
            • 4532
            • 1,160
            • 1,362
            • 12,768

            #115
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
            I just read the round by round - thanks Z for posting it.

            It must have a great fight - too bad it is not often written about.
            Yes, it is a good detailed round by round descrption of the action, not a lazy report which detactors often use. Details when talking abit a fight should matter.

            Comment

            • Dr. Z
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Dec 2020
              • 4532
              • 1,160
              • 1,362
              • 12,768

              #116
              Originally posted by Ivich
              Reports say Corbett gave Jeffries face quite a pasting,but when he got home with punches the 8 years younger 30lbs heavier Jeffries visibly hurt Corbett and Corbett tired in the last stages of the fight as the body shots took their toll.
              Jeffries was the original "take a licking and keep on ticking guy."
              And yet you post photo of the second Jeffries while talking about the first fight with little details. ****** of you.

              Corbett was 33 for this fight. In the re-match Jeffries had picked up quite a bit of skill and toyed with Corbett.


              At his peak, however, Jim actually developed good, solid boxing skills. In the second Corbett fight the Chronicle, Aug 15, 1903, said, “In the third (round) Jeff’s new born cleverness began to assert itself.”

              Here let me quote the ref in that fight.

              Referee Ed Graney commented, “I was not prepared to see Jeffries outbox Corbett…I doubt the equal of his present self will ever exist.” This proves that Jeff had developed into a good all around fighter, that he was not just a big lumbering oaf with a punch. He was a skilled athletic heavyweight with boxing prowess who could slip inside and **** away at the body and take his man apart over the course of a fight. Jeffries knocked out Corbett in the 10th round. It was a systematic destruction of a very fast and skillful boxer. The Jeffries of this fight would be a threat to any heavyweight who ever lived.

              Not that the source of this fight, which took the tale of the tape has Jerries at 6'1" 1/2 as do multiple primary sources. Stop speaking for Pollack who was banned here. Ask him if he thinks Jeffries was only 6'



              Enjoy a round by round report, which is not the short usually report you post.
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 09-14-2023, 06:10 AM.

              Comment

              • Ivich
                Banned
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2013
                • 4377
                • 1,640
                • 2,302
                • 6,015

                #117
                Originally posted by Dr. Z

                And yet you post photo of the second Jeffries while talking about the first fight with little details. ****** of you.

                Corbett was 33 for this fight. In the re-match Jeffries had picked up quite a bit of skill and toyed with Corbett.


                At his peak, however, Jim actually developed good, solid boxing skills. In the second Corbett fight the Chronicle, Aug 15, 1903, said, “In the third (round) Jeff’s new born cleverness began to assert itself.”

                Here let me quote the ref in that fight.



                Not that the source of this fight, which took the tale of the tape has Jerries at 6'1" 1/2 as do multiple primary sources. Stop speaking for Pollack who was banned here. Ask him if he thinks Jeffries was only 6'

                https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...bett&hl=en

                Enjoy a round by round report, which is not the short usually report you post.
                Punch Stats Of The 1st Jeffries v Corbett Fight | Boxing News 24 Forum (*************.com)
                Is this detailed enough for you?
                Going into the 2nd fight Corbett now 36 years old had been retired for 3 years,he had won 1 fight in the previous 9 and a half years, yes 9 and a half years!

                That was 3 years earlier against McCoy in1900 and many, including Box Rec believe it was a fake.

                Prior to this Corbett's last win was in1894 against the 165lbs Charlie Mitchell.
                Did anyone ever have worse credentials to be challenging a world champion in his prime?
                Is it any wonder Jeffries looked better against the 3 years retired Corbett?
                Corbett had no business being in that ring,coming back to his corner after the 8th round he told his seconds he was through,but would continue until he was stopped.
                So poorly did Corbett's chief second Tommy Ryan rate Corbett's chances he had oxygen hidden beneath the ring,with a tube coming up to the corner.he also had prearranged to throw a palm leaf fan into the ring when ,not if Corbett was done ,as a signal to stop the fight.
                Last edited by Ivich; 09-14-2023, 06:52 AM.

                Comment

                • QueensburyRules
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • May 2018
                  • 21822
                  • 2,352
                  • 17
                  • 187,708

                  #118
                  Originally posted by Ivich

                  Punch Stats Of The 1st Jeffries v Corbett Fight | Boxing News 24 Forum (*************.com)
                  Is this detailed enough for you?

                  Going into the 2nd fight Corbett now 36 years old had been retired for 3 years,he had won 1 fight in the previous 9 and a half years, yes 9 and a half years!

                  That was 3 years earlier against McCoy in1900 and many, including Box Rec believe it was a fake.

                  Prior to this Corbett's last win was in1894 against the 165lbs Charlie Mitchell.
                  Did anyone ever have worse credentials to be challenging a world champion in his prime?
                  Is it any wonder Jeffries looked better against the 3 years retired Corbett?
                  Corbett had no business being in that ring,coming back to his corner after the 8th round he told his seconds he was through,but would continue until he was stopped.
                  So poorly did Corbett's chief second Tommy Ryan rate Corbett's chances he had oxygen hidden beneath the ring,with a tube coming up to the corner.he also had prearranged to throw a palm leaf fan into the ring when ,not if Corbett was done ,as a signal to stop the fight.
                  - - U wif U noggin stuck in the toilet again?

                  Embarassing even for U...

                  Comment

                  • billeau2
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 27645
                    • 6,396
                    • 14,933
                    • 339,839

                    #119
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - U wif U noggin stuck in the toilet again?

                    Embarassing even for U...
                    Your point Maestro? U need to go back to the Ginsburg academy and get some letters.

                    Comment

                    • Dr. Z
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 4532
                      • 1,160
                      • 1,362
                      • 12,768

                      #120
                      Originally posted by Ivich

                      Punch Stats Of The 1st Jeffries v Corbett Fight | Boxing News 24 Forum (*************.com)
                      Is this detailed enough for you?
                      Going into the 2nd fight Corbett now 36 years old had been retired for 3 years,he had won 1 fight in the previous 9 and a half years, yes 9 and a half years!

                      That was 3 years earlier against McCoy in1900 and many, including Box Rec believe it was a fake.

                      Prior to this Corbett's last win was in1894 against the 165lbs Charlie Mitchell.
                      Did anyone ever have worse credentials to be challenging a world champion in his prime?
                      Is it any wonder Jeffries looked better against the 3 years retired Corbett?
                      Corbett had no business being in that ring,coming back to his corner after the 8th round he told his seconds he was through,but would continue until he was stopped.
                      So poorly did Corbett's chief second Tommy Ryan rate Corbett's chances he had oxygen hidden beneath the ring,with a tube coming up to the corner.he also had prearranged to throw a palm leaf fan into the ring when ,not if Corbett was done ,as a signal to stop the fight.
                      Where is your link to that fight? The one you provided is for another forum! Another poster calls you out in the BS. Prove to me with Corbett vs. McCoy fight was a fake? Both men were down and the action was lively. Not likely a fake. Unlike yourself I have the link to it. That fight was a war.

                      Corbett received oxygen for the first fight by way ( 1900 ) and when his cornerman tried to sprinkle water on the down and out Corbett in the ring, Jeffries kicked him in the face. Still think Jeffries height was only 6 feet? Dude check the tale of the tapes.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP