Im Getting Pig Sick Of Arseholes Derailing My Threads with Agenda Driven BS

[Ivich]

Let's just correct something real quick.

We are a boxing history section. People new to boxing or newly interested in boxing history come here to read and learn. Way before they post, they lurk, for years. They learn from the posts we make.

If we allow untruth, half-truth, fables, myths, and legends, to go unchecked we do a disservice to those trying to learn and find ourselves in an even larger ocean of ignorant posters.

The posters in history section may not get on, but, pay attention to Ivich's word choice. Liar. Not ignorant. He's not claiming Z does not know, he's claiming Z knows better. So, it may not be nice, and it may be better if we worked together, but the collision of ideas presented by knowledgeable posters does work.


No one should give Ivich **** for standing his ground. Nor Dr. Z for that matter. Standing their ground and arguing their stance is honorable. Ultimately there will never be any enforceable ruling as to who is correct which leaves readers to decide for themselves as opposed to allowing the loudest mouth to control historical narrative in a history section.





Or to say that more quickly, this is an academic section and academia requires challenge. Anything that champions a subversion to challenge is by its nature anti-academic. **** off with that ****.

Which one of us is prepared to post to post primary sourced documentation to back up his statements,and which one is not?
Z ,has many times stated that there were offers for Johnson to defend against Langford,McVey,and Jeannette for.
$30,000,$50,000,and $100,000, that Johnson refused,but after multiple requests from me to produce these offers ie
Promoter,Venue,Date,Purse .He has never once produced this information!

Use your own common sense here!

[Slugfester]

The only reason you and I are discussing this is because you said I was afraid to face him.Now you have totally contradicted that by saying,
"looks like you were even more desirous of an encounter than he was."

I don't," leave it alone ,"when I am personally challenged to a fight.I like to be able to look in the mirror when I am shaving and not feel ashamed of myself
We would not even be having this conversation if you hadn't seen fit to grace us with your insights into my courage or lack of it , insinuating I really didn't want to fight . If you want instances of the origins of our "beef ,"as you call it.PM me.

He doesn't rattle me I just abhor a liar something he has been called many , many times on another forum,by JT, Swagdefedel ,Klompton,Ted Spoon.McGrain,and 2 days ago he was called ,"borderline schizophrenic ,"by a poster there.
I've nothing against you,and hope we can calmly debate in the future , just don't imply I lack bottle.

I am trying to settle you characters down. If that takes goading, I will try anything. You should appreciate that. I think we have already debated politely more than once. But as you can see, I am considering all positions on this matter, and will judge according to what is said from now on rather than the past where your well documented complaints are. Not much else I can do.

I am not being pretentious, I have to confess. But, yes, I feel something like an Indian scouting for the cavalry. If I told you everything it would defeat the purpose of a deal that was brokered by a friend of us all.

The deal here is: old dogs can be taught new tricks, the smart ones anyway.. And that kind of pins it down for all, doesn't it? So let's rephrase it. The one who doesn't stop this nonsense first, is obviously not the smart one of the two, as anyone of us will plainly see..

Bloody Knife

[Ivich]

I am trying to settle you characters down. If that takes goading, I will try anything. You should appreciate that. I think we have already debated politely more than once. But as you can see, I am considering all positions on this matter, and will judge according to what is said from now on rather than the past where your well documented complaints are. Not much else I can do.

I am not being pretentious, I have to confess. But, yes, I feel something like an Indian scouting for the cavalry. If I told you everything it would defeat the purpose of a deal that was brokered by a friend of us all.

The deal here is: old dogs can be taught new tricks, the smart ones anyway.. And that kind of pins it down for all, doesn't it? So let's rephrase it. The one who doesn't stop this nonsense first, is obviously not the smart one of the two, as anyone of us will plainly see..

Bloody Knife

Whose threads are being derailed his or mine? Who is replying to whose posts to throw insults, him or me?

[Slugfester]

Whose threads are being derailed his or mine? Who is replying to whose posts to throw insults, him or me?

I think you may not want it to stop, friend, that is becoming clearer now. You are about to be declared the dumber of the two of you--not even as smart as Z, mister, because he shut up about it and you can't. You wrote your letter and posted it publicly. I am answering publicly. I harbor no favoritism. Your goal is to have Z barred, not for him to stop. If he did stop, you would not be able to get him barred. Why don't you simmer down and blow the steam out of your ears, friend? My guess is he is going to stop. It will easily be seen if he does not. That is not a tough one, is it, son? Go back to your business, if you can, and write some more good posts instead of this shit.

[Ivich]

I think you may not want it to stop, friend, that is becoming clearer now. You are about to be declared the dumber of the two of you--not even as smart as Z, mister, because he shut up about it and you can't. You wrote your letter and posted it publicly. I am answering publicly. I harbor no favoritism. Your goal is to have Z barred, not for him to stop. If he did stop, you would not be able to get him barred. Why don't you simmer down and blow the steam out of your ears, friend? My guess is he is going to stop. It will easily be seen if he does not. That is not a tough one, is it, son? Go back to your business, if you can, and write some more good posts instead of this shit.

No you didn't answer my 2 questions,and now you've taken over the thread I wish you joy of it .The only person feeding this is you,well do it on your own. This is my last comment. What you declare? lol
I'm posting **** ?
And your postscript is

"and there I saw two gays washing each others anuses before sex--"

Buster Cherry

Festerer

Very correct and tasteful.

[Dr. Z]

Which one of us is prepared to post to post primary sourced documentation to back up his statements,and which one is not?
Z ,has many times stated that there were offers for Johnson to defend against Langford,McVey,and Jeannette for.
$30,000,$50,000,and $100,000, that Johnson refused,but after multiple requests from me to produce these offers ie
Promoter,Venue,Date,Purse .He has never once produced this information!

Use your own common sense here!

WRONG liar. How many times did I show you? Johnson had no interest is in fighting Jeanette, Langford or McVey as champion. If he did he would have fought Langford in the UK, a contract which he signed. Or any of the above names is France where they were all active. Or in the USA where the fight can happen or in Australia.

I showed you some of these offers point blank. Johnson did not sign any of them before he knew for sure there would be no fight in a particular USA city, nor did he try to work with the promoter to move the fight elsewhere!

Instead he fought for peanuts in France, making but a few thousand vs Journeyman Jim Batting Johnson and did not make anything close to the contracted amount vs Moran!


Keep digging your own grade by calling me out with your lies. I have the facts.


Now, I have better things to do with my time.

[max baer]

I am trying to settle you characters down. If that takes goading, I will try anything. You should appreciate that. I think we have already debated politely more than once. But as you can see, I am considering all positions on this matter, and will judge according to what is said from now on rather than the past where your well documented complaints are. Not much else I can do.

I am not being pretentious, I have to confess. But, yes, I feel something like an Indian scouting for the cavalry. If I told you everything it would defeat the purpose of a deal that was brokered by a friend of us all.

The deal here is: old dogs can be taught new tricks, the smart ones anyway.. And that kind of pins it down for all, doesn't it? So let's rephrase it. The one who doesn't stop this nonsense first, is obviously not the smart one of the two, as anyone of us will plainly see..

Bloody Knife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PLS2U5oQb4 reminds me of this

[billeau2]

WRONG liar. How many times did I show you? Johnson had no interest is infighting n Jeanette, Langford or McVey as champion. If he did he would have fought Langford in the UK, a contract which he signed. Or any of the above names is France where they were all active. Or in the USA where the fight can happen or in Australia.

I showed you some of these offers point blank. Johnson did not sing any of them before he knew for sure there would be no fight in a particular USA city, nor did he try to work with the promoter to move the fight elsewhere!

Instead he fought for peanuts in France, making but a few thousand vs Journeyman Jim Batting Johnson and did not make anything close to the contracted amount vs Moran!


Keep digging your own grade by calling me out with your lies. I have the facts.


No, I have better things to do with my time.

so much for Z "being the smart one and dropping it" lol

[Dr. Z]

so much for Z "being the smart one and dropping it" lol

I suggested that he places me on ignore and stop the harassment of me personally. He is obsessed with me, obvisouly and has an ax to grind with several posters. I do my best to drop it, but he keeps lying calling me out as well spereading fake news. So I think it is best to replay once to what was said and let him show proof of his bogus statements. My replies are factual and I hope the board enjoys them. You can pm me if you have any ideas.

[BattlingNelson]

It's your call. It's not like you don't take part in the mudslinging though.

Oh well. It never ends. But this thread ends here.