If Dempsey Had Defended Against Wills,Godfrey & Norfolk?

[Ivich]

Greb went blind in one eye in 1921??? Wrong liar! And Greb whipped Dempsey a@@ while sparing and in the exhibition match. Jeffries retired after Monroe in 1904. Matin was Ko'd several times before that time. Got it? Jeffries has a reported KO over Martin in case you are interest in that.

Joe Louis fought Jon Henry Lewis in Lewis last fight, he was forced to retried afterwards. Greb boxed plenty after 1921.

Look if up, and stop being such a liar and fool.

Some should help you.

Greb went blind in one eye as a result of a thumbing from Kid Norfolk in their 1921fight.its matter of common knowledge.
Whether you accept it or not is immaterial and irrelevant.
"Perhaps the greatest anomaly about Harry Greb was he fought the majority of his career blind in his right eye. He fooled doctors during pre-fight physicals by memorizing the letters on eye charts."

"What nobody knew by then was that he was fighting under an incredible handicap. Greb had lost the sight in his right eye, following a foul-filled No Decision bout a seriously tough light-heavyweight, Kid Norfolk, in 1921. As the decade wore on, so the sight in his left eye began to deteriorate too to the point where he said with deep regret: “I can’t tell a dame from a priest until she’s close enough to smell her perfume.”.

Got anymore silly remarks to make?


Lewis was losing his lateral vision in one eye when he fought Louis ,but he wasn't blind in that eye,this is also a fact.

[Dr. Z]

Ivich

Greb went blind in one eye as a result of a thumbing from Kid Norfolk in their 1921fight.its matter of common knowledge.
Whether you accept it or not is immaterial and irrelevant.
"Perhaps the greatest anomaly about Harry Greb was he fought the majority of his career blind in his right eye. He fooled doctors during pre-fight physicals by memorizing the letters on eye charts."

"What nobody knew by then was that he was fighting under an incredible handicap. Greb had lost the sight in his right eye, following a foul-filled No Decision bout a seriously tough light-heavyweight, Kid Norfolk, in 1921. As the decade wore on, so the sight in his left eye began to deteriorate too to the point where he said with deep regret: “I can’t tell a dame from a priest until she’s close enough to smell her perfume.”.

Got anymore silly remarks to make?


Lewis was losing his lateral vision in one eye when he fought Louis ,but he wasn't blind in that eye,this is also a fact.

>>> Dude, you are comparing a guy who lost his last fight ( John Henry Lewis ) vision who was KO'd in one round and never fought again to Greb who beat several men post 1924, hall of fame guys, not to mention a few ranked contenders? Sure he could not see. Just

You really are an idiot. I underestimated your ability to destroy your own thread and hang yourself our to dry. Do press on.

[Ivich]

>>> Dude, you are comparing a guy who lost his last fight ( John Henry Lewis ) vision who was KO'd in one round and never fought again to Greb who beat several men post 1924, hall of fame guys, not to mention a few ranked contenders? Sure he could not see. Just

You really are an idiot. I underestimated your ability to destroy your own thread and hang yourself our to dry. Do press on.

Yes he lost his last fight ,to Joe Louis!lol
Prior to that he was on a run of16 wins 9 by ko 14 of those men were heavyweights. And 3 months before facing Louis he had beaten his number 1 contender the excellent Al Gainer.

Prior to this Lewis had lost to Isidoro Gastanaga conceding 23lbs to him,he also defeated him.

Before losing to Gastanaga ,Lewis had won his previous 15 fights,14 against heavyweights!
When he challenged Louis he had lost just 1 of his last 32 fights among those he had beaten during that run were
Gastanaga
Ettore x2
Ray
Perroni
Olin
Risko
Adamick
Gainer

You called me a liar when I stated Greb lost the sight in his right eye in1921 ,after a fight with Kid Norfolk ,when I provided proof you ignored it .

Not only was Greb blind in one eye after that fight ,his vision began to be impaired as his career continued.

This is all well established fact!
For you to deny it just emphasises what an absolute ignorant,hypocritical pillock you are!

You're a virus on this forum , you cannot spell, construct a sentence ,or formulate a cohesive argument,instead you offer nothing but lying, agenda driven BS.

You should be put down, permanently! Go **** up your own threads you infantile orifice!

[travestyny]

Well Greb would be about 170+ pounds. About the same weights of Dempsey title opponents in Carpentier ( 172 lbs ) and Gibbons ( 175 lbs ) Did he take them seriously? IMO, Dempsey ducked Greb.

It's a fair point.

[travestyny]

In regards to Montreal. There is this weird incident where Kearns offers the Monyreal go and there is a next day acceptance by some guy (I can not remember his name) who is connected to MSG (the pre 1925 Garden so it might be the MSG Bowl). This guy tthentwo days later retracts the offer and says Wills is not available.

I'm still wondering. Do you have a source for this?

You asked me to share my sources after your false accusations, and I did so. Wondering if you can return the favor here because I'd like to know what this was about....unless it's completely made up by you. I would hope you wouldn't do that. But since you like accusing people, I think you should step up and share where you are getting this from.

[Willie Pep 229]

I'm still wondering. Do you have a source for this?

You asked me to share my sources after your false accusations, and I did so. Wondering if you can return the favor here because I'd like to know what this was about....unless it's completely made up by you. I would hope you wouldn't do that. But since you like accusing people, I think you should step up and share where you are getting this from.

I was about to assist you until I read that line and I remembered who I am dealing with.

Believe whatever you like; talk about me to orhers; but stay away from me. I find you to be a very obnoxious human being.

[travestyny]

I was about to assist you until I read that line and I remembered who I am dealing with.

Believe whatever you like; talk about me to orhers; but stay away from me. I find you to be a very obnoxious human being.

What line was it that you didn't like? I hope you aren't making up an excuse, because I see nothing in my post to you that should be offensive. I didn't find it offensive (and apparently neither did you...?) when you asked for my sources and made all kinds of wild accusations, so what about my post was so offensive?

Your thoughts about me, I frankly don't care about. I have some opinions about you as well, but discussing them is not why I am here.

[travestyny]

No, it doesn't work that way. No source, it has no value.

Source It or stop posting it as an authority. You get to play by the same rules as everyone one else.

Says the guy who is now on record refusing to give a source for information he claims to be truthful.


Yea, I'll leave my opinions about you to myself.

[GhostofDempsey]

For all of Greb’s posturing and clout chasing of Dempsey, he didn’t really want the fight. He was quoted in the Brooklyn Eagle saying he had no desire to fight Dempsey. When told he had earned a shot at Dempsey he responded, “Yes I know, one was offered by Charley Murray of the Queensbury Club if Buffalo, and I don’t think I’ll accept it because Dempsey is too heavy for me. I don’t think I could concede him 25 pounds. There was only 8 pounds difference between me and Gibbons and it took all my strength to overcome the handicap.”

When Greb sparred Dempsey in ‘21, Jack was inactive for six months and out of shape, it was his first time in the ring since the Brennan fight, while Greb was much more active. Greb did not work him over, Dempsey just got tired chasing him.

[travestyny]

For all of Greb’s posturing and clout chasing of Dempsey, he didn’t really want the fight. He was quoted in the Brooklyn Eagle saying he had no desire to fight Dempsey. When told he had earned a shot at Dempsey he responded, “Yes I know, one was offered by Charley Murray of the Queensbury Club if Buffalo, and I don’t think I’ll accept it because Dempsey is too heavy for me. I don’t think I could concede him 25 pounds. There was only 8 pounds difference between me and Gibbons and it took all my strength to overcome the handicap.”

When Greb sparred Dempsey in ‘21, Jack was inactive for six months and out of shape, it was his first time in the ring since the Brennan fight, while Greb was much more active. Greb did not work him over, Dempsey just got tired chasing him.

I'm surprised Willie Pep 229 liked this post without asking you for more about the source. Brooklyn Eagle but what date? Any clipping to share?

Charley Murray was also quoted saying that Dempsey didn't want Greb.
The Connecticut labor news., December 30, 1921




Here, Greb is saying he can take a decision off of Dempsey
The Bismarck tribune. [volume], June 07, 1922






If we get more information from your source, we can probably make more sense of it. Need to see it and a date.