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  • #71
    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

    No way in hell.
    First fight: 116-112 Golovkin
    Second fight: 115-113 Golovkin
    Third fight: 116-112 Alvarez
    - - What grade you in for first and 2nd?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - What grade you in for first and 2nd?
      He dropped out. He was attending Queensbury Academy but it turns out the headmaster is a pedophile.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by famicommander View Post

        No way in hell.
        First fight: 116-112 Golovkin
        Second fight: 115-113 Golovkin
        Third fight: 116-112 Alvarez
        I actually felt if anyone won the rematch it was Canelo.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by kara View Post

          I actually felt if anyone won the rematch it was Canelo.
          Then you don't know how to score a fight.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
            I just watched Marquez/Pacquiao1 again. I scored it 117-113 for Pac. I gave him a 10-6 round for the first. If I hadn't, he still would have won on my card. Great fight, hard to score all right. The draw was not entirely outrageous, not the worst I have seen, but with a minor stink. If one referee does what he is supposed to do Pac wins the fight.
            I had it a draw myself.

            Wouldn’t have argued with the decision either way.

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            • #76
              - - Canelo 2-0-1 vs GGG where for boxing, the scores about as fair as it gets.

              Manny 2-1-1 vs BALCO Juan by mod officiating would have a1st rd KO first fight, then the hapless Duck of the rematch, where when they fought years later, this time Dunce Bayless missed the Manny KO of JMM late in the fight.

              The first fight it was Dummy Cortez who blew the first rd KO, and then a judge who admitted he made the scoring error that robbed Manny of a decision….duh!!!

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              • #77
                I just watched Marquez/Pacquiao1 again. I scored it 117-113 for Pac. I gave him a 10-6 round for the first. If I hadn't, he still would have won on my card. Great fight, hard to score all right. The draw was not entirely outrageous, not the worst I have seen, but with a minor stink. If one judge does what he is supposed to do Pac wins the fight.

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                • #78
                  Sorry about the double letter. Didn't realize I had already mailed it.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                    Then you don't know how to score a fight.
                    If you poll people, its widely viewed, even among fighters, that GGG took fight one and Canelo took fight two. Canelo took the fight to GGG in fight two and stood in front of him, which GGG dared him to do, and instead of fighting he boxed, which Abel said afterwards was not the strategy they trained for.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by kara View Post

                      If you poll people, its widely viewed, even among fighters, that GGG took fight one and Canelo took fight two. Canelo took the fight to GGG in fight two and stood in front of him, which GGG dared him to do, and instead of fighting he boxed, which Abel said afterwards was not the strategy they trained for.
                      BoxRec fan scores based on 330 scorecards for the second fight:
                      114.69-112.49 Golovkin

                      The vast majority of media outlets scored it for Golovkin as well:
                      Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw
                      Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won
                      Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw
                      Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw
                      Teddy Atlas - Golovkin won
                      Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw
                      Jorge Eduardo Sánchez (ESPN Deportes): 114-114 draw
                      David Faitelson (ESPN Deportes): Golovkin won
                      Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
                      Skip Bayless (Fox Sports 1): Golovkin won
                      Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114 draw
                      BoxingScene: 114-114 draw
                      Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw
                      The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
                      Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
                      Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
                      Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Mike Costello (BBC): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Steve Bunce (BBC): 114-114 draw
                      Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won
                      Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin
                      Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw
                      Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
                      The Associated Press: 114-114 draw
                      Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw
                      Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won
                      Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly): Canelo won
                      Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
                      George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw
                      Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won
                      Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin
                      World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin
                      Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
                      Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw
                      Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo
                      Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds
                      Fight Nights: 115-113 Golovkin
                      Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin
                      Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds
                      Rafael G (the Fight City): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Jesse Granger (Las Vegas Sun): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Jerry Izenberg (The NJ Advance Media): 115-113 Golovkin
                      40 for GGG, 2 for Canelo, 17 Draw
                      average fan scorecard (1773 fans): 116-113 Golovkin

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