Is Moorer Hall of fame worthy?

[ShoulderRoll]

The list of light heavyweight champions who went on to win a heavyweight title is not a long one.

[Willow The Wisp]

Hall of Fames bring out the antisocial aspects of my being... baseball, a game originally frequented and developed by social degenerates, sociopaths, etc... and I mean that in a good way! The hard nosed ways of men with not much to lose made the game more than another version of Cricket with its class consciousness, white uniforms and squeaky clean image... Only boys from downtown let the ball bounce first in stickball! Fairies! I tell ya. Anyway... baseball players fought, gambled, drank... and that was when they were not committing felonies! Yet a throwback player, a representation of that attitude and indomitable spirit... the great Pete Rose, was turned away by Cooperstown. The nerve! I mean God invented astericks for a reason right?

I feel the same way about Boxings Hall... It takes men, willing to argue, debate the finer points, to form a dialectic and a list of the real 3 letters that matter: ATG. On that note there are fighters like Moorer who were much respected by other fighters more than fans. To have a rep as one of the top dogs at Kronk, when it was really Kronk with Stewart and the plethora of amazing fighters is worthy. But, it does not quite measure according to Hall of Fame criteria. Moorer was, imo typical of a great light heavy because, when it was time he beat a great heavyweight, but really shined in the weight class below. Yet, as you say, and it is true, the record does not really show greatness. And so it will always be that Moorer inspires conversation on this issue. I always tell people to watch his fight against Holly... It was a clinic.

Superb post.

[Willow The Wisp]

The list of light heavyweight champions who went on to win a heavyweight title is not a long one.

Also an excellent post. Precisely to my point regarding blended criteria. Wins, losses, and numbers are vital parts of a fighter's measure, but as Butterbean Esch will testify, they do not stand alone. Holyfield is roundly venerated, yet 21.42% of his time as a professional his abilities failed to secure the win. One of those occasions, incidentally was the lost of the title to Moorer.

[MikeyMike100]

I don't think so. His resume isnt very strong and he beat Holyfield on a bad night from Holyfield and I had it a draw

[billeau2]

I don't think so. His resume isnt very strong and he beat Holyfield on a bad night from Holyfield and I had it a draw

Ya know... the bstard maker must have had more bad nights than most. Every time he gets beat he had a bad night... Toney, Moorer, Lewis, all caught up with Holly on a bad night? You know bad nights don't just happen, sometimes they are created.

[JAB5239]

Hall of Fames bring out the antisocial aspects of my being... baseball, a game originally frequented and developed by social degenerates, sociopaths, etc... and I mean that in a good way! The hard nosed ways of men with not much to lose made the game more than another version of Cricket with its class consciousness, white uniforms and squeaky clean image... Only boys from downtown let the ball bounce first in stickball! Fairies! I tell ya. Anyway... baseball players fought, gambled, drank... and that was when they were not committing felonies! Yet a throwback player, a representation of that attitude and indomitable spirit... the great Pete Rose, was turned away by Cooperstown. The nerve! I mean God invented astericks for a reason right?

I feel the same way about Boxings Hall... It takes men, willing to argue, debate the finer points, to form a dialectic and a list of the real 3 letters that matter: ATG. On that note there are fighters like Moorer who were much respected by other fighters more than fans. To have a rep as one of the top dogs at Kronk, when it was really Kronk with Stewart and the plethora of amazing fighters is worthy. But, it does not quite measure according to Hall of Fame criteria. Moorer was, imo typical of a great light heavy because, when it was time he beat a great heavyweight, but really shined in the weight class below. Yet, as you say, and it is true, the record does not really show greatness. And so it will always be that Moorer inspires conversation on this issue. I always tell people to watch his fight against Holly... It was a clinic.

I do believe I am convinced.

[billeau2]

I do believe I am convinced.

[MikeyMike100]

Ya know... the bstard maker must have had more bad nights than most. Every time he gets beat he had a bad night... Toney, Moorer, Lewis, all caught up with Holly on a bad night? You know bad nights don't just happen, sometimes they are created.

Ok but this is about Moorer and Holyfield even in that fight dropped Moorer and I had it a draw

[billeau2]

Ok but this is about Moorer and Holyfield even in that fight dropped Moorer and I had it a draw

your entitled to your opinion. Many also had it a draw, some called Holly as the winner. Moorer to me constantly had the bastrd maker off balance and let off some great combos. It was actually a great fight to watch... or maybe it seemed that way because of all the chemical enticements we had that night lol.

[QueensburyRules]

I don't think so. His resume isnt very strong and he beat Holyfield on a bad night from Holyfield and I had it a draw

- - More than a bad night. Moorer retired Field from boxing.

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