True Gentleman Of Heavyweight Champs

[Hooded Terror]

Corbett's Wife took him to court for domestic abuse.
Jim Jeffries reneged on wagers he had made with Reno book makers and Tex Rickard had to make a settlement on the dollar so the Johnson fight could be held there. Walcott was mobbed up and imo took a dive against Rocky the 2nd time.Douglas elected to stay down against Holyfield. We all know Evander's history.
Apart from Wlad claiming he was drugged in one defeat he has always acted with exemplary decorum.
Patterson was a gentleman,but he should have addressed Ali by his chosen name. Ive heard nothing untoward about the other names unless,you want to count Louis' serial womanizing.
These are men they have /had the same fallibilities and frailties as the rest of us.

Relative to Wlad, didn't he once claim he lost because too much vaseline had been applied to his legs? I seriously recall reading that excuse in the days after the Brewster loss

[Ivich]

Relative to Wlad, didn't he once claim he lost because too much vaseline had been applied to his legs? I seriously recall reading that excuse in the days after the Brewster loss

It's a new one on me.

[4truth]

Max Schmeling would be my choice.

https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/savi...g-aryan-champ/

[QueensburyRules]

Relative to Wlad, didn't he once claim he lost because too much vaseline had been applied to his legs? I seriously recall reading that excuse in the days after the Brewster loss

- - That was Manny's reasoning why Hearns lost the first Leonard fight without the vaseline, a rubbing to stimulate the legs prefight. It came up with Wlad with his torso and legs for Brewster, but the cut man applied it and may have been the source of the drugging. He was a big name, but I don't remember all them cut men from then and I don't want to accuse him without knowing more.

Betting had been suspended in all the Big Gaming Houses 2 weeks before the fight on su****ion of a fix when a huge sum of the UK was placed on Brewster who had literally looked like Kaka the few times he stepped up to a B level fight.

Wlad pitched an easy shutout for 4 rounds, getting two KDs in the 4th with the last one uncalled by the ref, the notoriously incompetent Robert Byrd who with his wife were a HOF tag team ruining uncountable fights. What Brewster did going down was tackle Wlad at the ankles as the bell rang. Brewster got up but the ref had to help Wlad which is the first sign of when the drug took effect. For the 5th Wlad was now a zombie, so Brewster who is a really strong fighter with a good punch started swinging for the fences as Wlad was moving back to ropes barely able to keep his arms up. Bouncing off ropes he rode out the round with few punches suffered, but notably, near zero offensive effort.

At the Bell Brewster had launched another haymaker sailing over Wlad head as he bounced off the ropes hard and fell down. Could barely move and looked catatonic, so Byrd waves off the fight as Vit and Manny rush in, and he can't even stand, so they carry him to his stool where he looks like death.

I knew all the prefight, and all through the fight I saw no evidence until the innocuous tackle when Brewster was KDed again, and then all down hill for Wlad after an easy walk in the park. Manny and Vit say he drugged. I jumped up and screamed it in the small empty bar I was in, and when the Hotel mgr came in to inquire about the fight, I told him to sit down they'll replay it. He jumps up at the same time with the same accusation. He used to work Shane Mosley when he turned pro, so he was no mug off the street. He knows about these things when he sees them.

Yup, only in sleazy boxing, folk!!!

[QueensburyRules]

Max Schmeling would be my choice.

https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/savi...g-aryan-champ/

- - Most excellent, Max. He risked his life when he took on two ***ish Boys from a friend to squirrel away in his hotel room until he could arrange someone to smuggle them out of Germany, probably through France. Some new idiot with a platform was making horrible International accusations against Max who lived to be 99 yrs old.

It was so bad that the two boys, now accomplished adults, broke their silence to tell Max's story, and Poof, tabloid pit bull disappeared. Folks rallied for another greater appreciation of Max than before.

[Ivich]

- - That was Manny's reasoning why Hearns lost the first Leonard fight without the vaseline, a rubbing to stimulate the legs prefight. It came up with Wlad with his torso and legs for Brewster, but the cut man applied it and may have been the source of the drugging. He was a big name, but I don't remember all them cut men from then and I don't want to accuse him without knowing more.

Betting had been suspended in all the Big Gaming Houses 2 weeks before the fight on su****ion of a fix when a huge sum of the UK was placed on Brewster who had literally looked like Kaka the few times he stepped up to a B level fight.

Wlad pitched an easy shutout for 4 rounds, getting two KDs in the 4th with the last one uncalled by the ref, the notoriously incompetent Robert Byrd who with his wife were a HOF tag team ruining uncountable fights. What Brewster did going down was tackle Wlad at the ankles as the bell rang. Brewster got up but the ref had to help Wlad which is the first sign of when the drug took effect. For the 5th Wlad was now a zombie, so Brewster who is a really strong fighter with a good punch started swinging for the fences as Wlad was moving back to ropes barely able to keep his arms up. Bouncing off ropes he rode out the round with few punches suffered, but notably, near zero offensive effort.

At the Bell Brewster had launched another haymaker sailing over Wlad head as he bounced off the ropes hard and fell down. Could barely move and looked catatonic, so Byrd waves off the fight as Vit and Manny rush in, and he can't even stand, so they carry him to his stool where he looks like death.

I knew all the prefight, and all through the fight I saw no evidence until the innocuous tackle when Brewster was KDed again, and then all down hill for Wlad after an easy walk in the park. Manny and Vit say he drugged. I jumped up and screamed it in the small empty bar I was in, and when the Hotel mgr came in to inquire about the fight, I told him to sit down they'll replay it. He jumps up at the same time with the same accusation. He used to work Shane Mosley when he turned pro, so he was no mug off the street. He knows about these things when he sees them.

Yup, only in sleazy boxing, folk!!!

Nope ,one of Tommy's friends idiotically gave him a leg massage just prior to the fight,anyone who has boxed or competed in athletics knows this to be a no no.No Vaseline mentioned by Manny in his recalling of the evening.
This is in several books, so don't waste your time trying to discredit it Alfred.


Education is a wonderful thing!
High Blood Sugar? Maybe, But Klitschko's Excuses Just Taste Sour | Boxing News, articles, videos, rankings and results (ib.tv)

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[QueensburyRules]

Nope ,one of Tommy's friends idiotically gave him a leg massage just prior to the fight,anyone who has boxed or competed in athletics knows this to be a no no.No Vaseline mentioned by Manny in his recalling of the evening.
This is in several books, so don't waste your time trying to discredit it Alfred.


Education is a wonderful thing!
High Blood Sugar? Maybe, But Klitschko's Excuses Just Taste Sour | Boxing News, articles, videos, rankings and results (ib.tv)

- - Yo , you transgibbering what I stated into a gibberish that you can understand is understandable given your level of evolution on the scale of mankind.

Boxing articles by typical media hacks mean nothing as to the truth of this fight, that featured all the lowest of the low situations needed for an upset of this magnitude as I layed out. In short, they just a bit of slurple purple acid koolaide for your ilk...ypoopsydroopsy Barney BigBoys...

[Ivich]

- - Yo , you transgibbering what I stated into a gibberish that you can understand is understandable given your level of evolution on the scale of mankind.

Boxing articles by typical media hacks mean nothing as to the truth of this fight, that featured all the lowest of the low situations needed for an upset of this magnitude as I layed out. In short, they just a bit of slurple purple acid koolaide for your ilk...ypoopsydroopsy Barney BigBoys...

The ring physician discredited the drug claim and the samples were kept for the requisite amount of time during which no one from Klitchkos camp attempted to take possession of them I misjudged you Alfred ,it isnt an act you really are that ******.

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[QueensburyRules]

The ring physician discredited the drug claim and the samples were kept for the requisite amount of time during which no one from Klitchkos camp attempted to take possession of them I misjudged you Alfred ,it isnt an act you really are that ******.

- - Even an Ape can do a better job of Aping than your pretentious Ape wannabe act.

The Ring Doc later huddled with felon BALCO VIC to design the drug testing format for VADA as well as approving the host of designer PEDs legal under VADA rules. I ain't making this up, but it's what untutored dummies like you swaller hook, line, and sinker. No Major Pro Sports would allow BALCO Vic anywhere on their facilities, but here he is getting you to ape him as he has taken over boxing whilst he has a monopoly on boxing drug biz.

• Shortly after the fight Klitschko was rushed into the hospital. The examination showed Wladimir's blood sugar level almost two times higher than the permissible norm.
• After returning from the examination to the hotel, Klitschko fell ill with nausea, followed by physical weakness.
• On April 12, Wladimir arrived in Las Vegas and donated blood and urine samples for an independent examination, which was supposed to be done by Donald Katlin, who specialized in such cases. The examination showed no signs of anabolic steroids in his blood, but Katlin suggested that Klitschko could have been poisoned with Haloperidol. The drug has no taste or smell and causes mental disorders, which are accompanied by impaired coordination, a weakening reaction and overall physical weakness. After that, Wladimir demanded the tests taken by the Medical Center of South Nevada and the Nevada Quest Diagnostics to be passed on to Dr. Robert Wow for further research. However, the A sample had been disposed of, while the B sample, which was supposed to be stored for years, disappeared.

That's OK since Wlad prevailed in the end, winning The WAR with the best heavy career and record since Joe Louis stalked the land overcoming all obstacles whilst taking no prisoners...The End...

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Even an Ape can do a better job of Aping than your pretentious Ape wannabe act.

The Ring Doc later huddled with felon BALCO VIC to design the drug testing format for VADA as well as approving the host of designer PEDs legal under VADA rules. I ain't making this up, but it's what untutored dummies like you swaller hook, line, and sinker. No Major Pro Sports would allow BALCO Vic anywhere on their facilities, but here he is getting you to ape him as he has taken over boxing whilst he has a monopoly on boxing drug biz.

• Shortly after the fight Klitschko was rushed into the hospital. The examination showed Wladimir's blood sugar level almost two times higher than the permissible norm.
• After returning from the examination to the hotel, Klitschko fell ill with nausea, followed by physical weakness.
• On April 12, Wladimir arrived in Las Vegas and donated blood and urine samples for an independent examination, which was supposed to be done by Donald Katlin, who specialized in such cases. The examination showed no signs of anabolic steroids in his blood, but Katlin suggested that Klitschko could have been poisoned with Haloperidol. The drug has no taste or smell and causes mental disorders, which are accompanied by impaired coordination, a weakening reaction and overall physical weakness. After that, Wladimir demanded the tests taken by the Medical Center of South Nevada and the Nevada Quest Diagnostics to be passed on to Dr. Robert Wow for further research. However, the A sample had been disposed of, while the B sample, which was supposed to be stored for years, disappeared.

That's OK since Wlad prevailed in the end, winning The WAR with the best heavy career and record since Joe Louis stalked the land overcoming all obstacles whilst taking no prisoners...The End...

Interesting story. Just read a little more on Wiki.

I think late betting money is over-stated as evidence to a fix.

They say that Dempsey was poisoned the night of Tunney (I) and that over a four day period Dempsey slipped from a 4-1 favorite down to a 7-5 underdog at ringside. That's much 'late Tunney money' came into play.

Enter AR "The Brain" --> but who knows!

That all the Brewster money, showed up in the final two days, isn't that unusual; coukd well be just big betters waiting to see how far the odds will stretch.

Also I never really understood how a gangster is suspose to lay big bets under a conspiracy plan to poision a fighter? What if it goes wrong?

A fix is suspose to be a 'sure thing' -- whether the poision will be administed at the proper time; or even knowing that the whole damn conspiracy will work two days before the fight seems unlikely.

You have to know the poison is already in his body before betting. Then trying to time that reaction, at the right time during the fight, two days before the fights seems impossible.

Late betting money, to me, means little.

On the other hand. Wald's behavior in the ring was unprecedented behavior for me. Not before or since have I seen a fighter act in that manner.