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  • #21
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

    Anthony Joshua would need a box of hand grenades in order to dominate Deontay Wilder in my opinion. But... I'm willing to see if he can outwork and stop Franklin, and rooting for him to do just that. Boxing benefits from from a hot heavyweight upper class.
    - - No need to when AJ forced Deyonce and Blubber into a temporary betrothal of a trilogy union for peanuts as opposed as the King's Ransom figures AJ pays his opponents.

    Sissies liking sissies is nothing new in boxing.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - No need to when AJ forced Deyonce and Blubber into a temporary betrothal of a trilogy union for peanuts as opposed as the King's Ransom figures AJ pays his opponents.

      Sissies liking sissies is nothing new in boxing.
      Or just maybe the two best fighters in the division were more about fighting one another than clamoring for a money grab? It's possible isn't it?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        Or just maybe the two best fighters in the division were more about fighting one another than clamoring for a money grab? It's possible isn't it?
        - - More likely you just grabbing yourself over two soft addled lads ducking the Colossus of the division. Fat Andy stepped in for them and the rest history.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - More likely you just grabbing yourself over two soft addled lads ducking the Colossus of the division. Fat Andy stepped in for them and the rest history.
          Yeah, fat Andy stepped in and knocked him out. So sad. Didn't AJ just turn down 50 million for Wilder?

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          • #25
            Let's keep in mind the $50 million was not a guarantee but was contingent on PVV buys.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
              Let's keep in mind the $50 million was not a guarantee but was contingent on PVV buys.
              The point being that it's hard to say Wilder ducked AJ to instead fight a trilogy with the best heavyweight in the world when AJ just passed on fighting Wilder to in fact fight a lesser fighter. There are always reasons, some good, some not so good why fights don't get made right away. But to call these guys dockers and other derogatory names while their careers are still in progress....I don't know, I just think it's in bad taste. We'll see where all three of their careers are shortly as all 3, in my opinion, are winding down.

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              • #27
                Joshua's fans always say the same tosh.

                I personally think the timing is telling.



                "Give me 50 mil"

                "Okay"

                "Oh, damn, well, no still"

                "I'm fighting Fury now"

                "Wait, wait, I have a better offer for you"


                Em, just seems like something you do to save face. If Wilder dropped the Fury fight and went back to trying to get a Joshua fight who would have been shocked by it not coming off? Like no one. My condensed version of events throws out what a year of Wilder crying for a fight and Joshua making excuses?



                Back to Usyk, I think the best thing for boxing is an Usyk victory. I don't really see it, maybe, with a lot of movement and tiring Fury down, maybe, but I do think Usyk's the only HW who doesn't have a hard time making fights.

                Blame Wilder, blame Fury, blame Joshua, it really doesn't matter. Promoters' jobs have become making excuses for their failures. "This guy wants X isn't that crazy? Public? Isn't it? Agree please!" It is nonsense. I don't care what A or B wants. Management's job is to get the fights made and if that doesn't happen they are failures. Doesn't matter if you agree with them, they failed to get their job done.

                Usyk Co. gets the job done.


                I'd love to see Usyk win and take some more good fights before he leaves us. Usyk-Wilder, Usyk-Ruiz, Usyk-Joyce, Usyk-Hrgovic, etc. I'd be exciting if he lost to a man who lost to a man too. If Wilder beat Usyk, Usyk beat Fury, and Fury beat Wilder, we have ourselves a 3 kings style era. Always nice. A Ruiz shake up would likewise be pretty great.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by HawkHogan View Post
                  Joshua's fans always say the same tosh.

                  I personally think the timing is telling.



                  "Give me 50 mil"

                  "Okay"

                  "Oh, damn, well, no still"

                  "I'm fighting Fury now"

                  "Wait, wait, I have a better offer for you"


                  Em, just seems like something you do to save face. If Wilder dropped the Fury fight and went back to trying to get a Joshua fight who would have been shocked by it not coming off? Like no one. My condensed version of events throws out what a year of Wilder crying for a fight and Joshua making excuses?



                  Back to Usyk, I think the best thing for boxing is an Usyk victory. I don't really see it, maybe, with a lot of movement and tiring Fury down, maybe, but I do think Usyk's the only HW who doesn't have a hard time making fights.

                  Blame Wilder, blame Fury, blame Joshua, it really doesn't matter. Promoters' jobs have become making excuses for their failures. "This guy wants X isn't that crazy? Public? Isn't it? Agree please!" It is nonsense. I don't care what A or B wants. Management's job is to get the fights made and if that doesn't happen they are failures. Doesn't matter if you agree with them, they failed to get their job done.

                  Usyk Co. gets the job done.


                  I'd love to see Usyk win and take some more good fights before he leaves us. Usyk-Wilder, Usyk-Ruiz, Usyk-Joyce, Usyk-Hrgovic, etc. I'd be exciting if he lost to a man who lost to a man too. If Wilder beat Usyk, Usyk beat Fury, and Fury beat Wilder, we have ourselves a 3 kings style era. Always nice. A Ruiz shake up would likewise be pretty great.
                  - - I see Deyonce and Blubber as what they are, ie Deyonce and Blubber.

                  AJ made the fights paying good $$$ that unified the titles and electrified the UK, putting yet another stake into the soiled US heavy division. Fat Andy the only fighter willing to step up to AJ in his American Debut, and though Fat Andy was born in America, he identifies more as Mexican. The other fainting goats were holding out to fight the weakest link in the division, Deyonce.

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                  • #29
                    When was the last time where we had two white Heavyweights, in the same ring, fighting for the title? ....................Rockin'
                    Last edited by Rockin'; 03-14-2023, 08:59 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                      When was the last time where we had two white Heavyweights, in the same ring, fighting for the title? ....................Rockin'
                      - - Wlad vs Povetkin, though at turn of 20th Century Racial Experts didn't view Russians, Slavs, Italians, Irish ect as white.

                      Also Fury, Pianeta, Wach, Chagaev, ect.
                      Rockin' Rockin' likes this.

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