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  • #11
    I have a sneaking su****ion that Joshua's got a trick or two left in him. Twasnt that long ago when many (most?) Of us saw him as the era's frontrunner. He certainly isn't that anymore, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings.

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    • #12
      To be honest, Vitali Klitschko would toy with Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

      I don`t think these three will be remembered as some special fighters.
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      • #13
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
        To be honest, Vitali Klitschko would toy with Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

        I don`t think these three will be remembered as some special fighters.
        As ATG goes --> Wilder is a no go, he's done. AJ is still a maybe and Fury is on track.

        Fury needs to fight at least one, maybe two more guys we THINK can beat him. Then he'll get an ATG remembrance.

        Wilder-Fury II &III only became a big fights because Wilder took him the distance first time out (with a KD). After that Wilder jlooked outmatched.


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        • #14
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
          To be honest, Vitali Klitschko would toy with Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

          I don`t think these three will be remembered as some special fighters.
          Vitali didn't toy with an old and unmotivated Lennox Lewis who had his eyes on Hollywood, did he?

          He certainly aint gonna toy with somebody with the right-had of Wilder or the size & skills of Fury.

          The Klitschkos were lucky to be in the era of big stiffs or overmatched smaller guys like David Haye & Eddie Chambers.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

            Vitali didn't toy with an old and unmotivated Lennox Lewis who had his eyes on Hollywood, did he?

            He certainly aint gonna toy with somebody with the right-had of Wilder or the size & skills of Fury.

            The Klitschkos were lucky to be in the era of big stiffs or overmatched smaller guys like David Haye & Eddie Chambers.
            Vitali didn't toy with a part-time boxer in Sanders

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

              Vitali didn't toy with an old and unmotivated Lennox Lewis who had his eyes on Hollywood, did he?

              He certainly aint gonna toy with somebody with the right-had of Wilder or the size & skills of Fury.

              The Klitschkos were lucky to be in the era of big stiffs or overmatched smaller guys like David Haye & Eddie Chambers.
              Wow, Vitali was not that good because he lost to one of top 5 heavyweights ever?

              Tell me honestly, how great win would be Whyte for Vitali?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                To be honest, Vitali Klitschko would toy with Joshua, Wilder and Fury.

                I don`t think these three will be remembered as some special fighters.
                Going by his opposition neither will Vitali you don't get prizes for what might have been,not in my book anyway.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                  Going by his opposition neither will Vitali you don't get prizes for what might have been,not in my book anyway.
                  Vitali`s opposition was not great, I already said.

                  But cmon, now we will pretend like Fury, AJ and Wilder fought some great opposition?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                    The comeback opponent selected to (hopefully) launch the comeback of former multiple beltholder Anthony Joshua has spoken out regarding his next adversary's place in HISTORY. Franklin (21-1, 14 KOs), who will be facing Joshua (24-3, 22 KOs) on April 1st at the O2 Arena in London on DAZN, sees it as strange that AJ didn’t fight Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury, despite those being two obvious matches that should have been made by this point in his 10-year professional career.

                    I suppose I agree.
                    With Joshua's title opponents having collectively dropped a whopping 18 fights since Joshua defeated them, and Wilder and Fury having lost None outside of when stepping up against each other in that same span of time, we've certainly come a long way since the days when folks said that AJ had fought the "best opponents" of the three.
                    My guess is that no sooner than when Tyson Fury unifies the belts by crushing Oleksandr Usyk, the Los Banditos companies will fragment that title again, as sanctioning fees by shared rotation won't keep the cash register ringing.
                    Once that happens, Eddie ought to be able to snag his charge a title belt or two as Wilder, Fury, Joyce and Usyk all age out. But having blown or sidestepped a chance to face the best of the post-2015 era, won't that be a hollow prize!

                    Thoughts?​
                    AJ was a solid alphabet champion. He is not a fraud like Wilder pretty much is.

                    Fury is waiting to fight competition that too isn't old/fat while he is still younger. Will Fury actually face a man in his prime that is top 10 Ring Magazine ranked or even Box Rec Ranked?

                    Post Klitschko this era has been very poor. At least the Klitschko's both fought many ranked contenders that were young and in their primes. This generation of heavyweights very poor and doesn't test themselves.
                    Last edited by Dr. Z; 02-11-2023, 05:46 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                      Vitali`s opposition was not great, I already said.

                      But cmon, now we will pretend like Fury, AJ and Wilder fought some great opposition?
                      I won't, their resumes are shallow too but apart from a few Fury die hards ,nobody is calling the great.

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