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  • #21
    Originally posted by markusmod View Post
    At one time they said Bowe might become the greatest big man of all time.
    They said about allot of guys.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

      They said about allot of guys.
      Rag wags were predicting Michael Moorer would hold the title for several years, after he defeated Holyfield. They couldn't see anyone on the horizon that could hope to beat him. He didn't make it past his first defense.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by mrbig1 View Post

        if he does then he will be the champ. I'm not saying he's not any good. I just want him to fight someone with a pulse. Who does he plan to fight next?
        That would be a big win, overcoming a big disadvantage in size.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          Yeah and Evander Holyfield also beat the shit out of Mike Tyson in a boxing match didn't he, you dumb cunt.
          Yeah, when Tyson was almost a decade past his peak and a year out of prison.

          Lennox & Evander never faced the guy who demolished Spinks & Holmes.

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          • #25
            Head to Head is everybody at their absolute peak, right?

            1. Ali
            2. Tyson
            3. Lennox
            4. Bowe
            5. Foreman
            6. Fury
            7. Liston
            8. Louis
            9. Holmes
            10. Dempsey

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              They said about allot of guys.
              Michael Grant.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                Yeah, when Tyson was almost a decade past his peak and a year out of prison.

                Lennox & Evander never faced the guy who demolished Spinks & Holmes.
                That's a nice case of hindsight being 20-20 but Holyfield was older and much further past his peak, and was coming off a retirement due to heart issues. Mike Tyson at the time was considered the man in the divison once again.

                With all that considered, as the big underdog Evander Holyfield beat him from pillar to post in the first one and made him quit the second one whilst winning every round.

                I think it's incredibly difficult to argue that Tyson could be ahead of Holyfield in a H2H scenario when it's clear as day that Holyfield is the far superior fighter.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                  That's a nice case of hindsight being 20-20 but Holyfield was older and much further past his peak, and was coming off a retirement due to heart issues. Mike Tyson at the time was considered the man in the divison once again.

                  With all that considered, as the big underdog Evander Holyfield beat him from pillar to post in the first one and made him quit the second one whilst winning every round.

                  I think it's incredibly difficult to argue that Tyson could be ahead of Holyfield in a H2H scenario when it's clear as day that Holyfield is the far superior fighter.
                  - - Tyson was in the middle of his 4 round, 3 ring circus act on strong, experimental psychotropic sedatives fighting beyond when he wanted to retire but for King stealing his $50 mil retirement annuity.

                  A HUGE name for promotional value, not The Man, hence the McNeely and other subsequent farces. Older Vander wasn't in position to fight preprison Mike who had more of his mental faculties then even if in decline. Big George had that fight lined up before the Tiananmen Massacre. Instead that fight went to Buster.

                  Just gonna have to live with Vander getting the 3rd rate Mike, not the first or second rate Mike, and needed headbutts to win which is where he first earned his moniker as HolyButt.

                  That's fine since it gives you something to crow about absent any other thing in your sheltered life.
                  nathan sturley max baer likes this.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Tyson was in the middle of his 4 round, 3 ring circus act on strong, experimental psychotropic sedatives fighting beyond when he wanted to retire but for King stealing his $50 mil retirement annuity.

                    A HUGE name for promotional value, not The Man, hence the McNeely and other subsequent farces. Older Vander wasn't in position to fight preprison Mike who had more of his mental faculties then even if in decline. Big George had that fight lined up before the Tiananmen Massacre. Instead that fight went to Buster.

                    Just gonna have to live with Vander getting the 3rd rate Mike, not the first or second rate Mike, and needed headbutts to win which is where he first earned his moniker as HolyButt.

                    That's fine since it gives you something to crow about absent any other thing in your sheltered life.
                    So many lies here. First off....what were these experimental drugs? Second.....the Foreman fight was proposed. It was never lined up nor signed. I've proven this to you several times already but you want to continue this false narrative anyway.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      So many lies here. First off....what were these experimental drugs? Second.....the Foreman fight was proposed. It was never lined up nor signed. I've proven this to you several times already but you want to continue this false narrative anyway.
                      - - Mug off Mugsy. U ain't proved head to head shyte and probably U minder has an Amber Alert out for U.

                      Mike Tyson and Vit top 2 H2H candidates with Wlad somewhere in the top 10 along with Valuev.

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