Vitali Klitschko, the last great heavyweight

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  • Clegg
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    #431
    I have seen this guy claim Bowe ducked the K bros many times no matter how much he's corrected. Odd to create your own false memories like that. Meanwhile Vitali never giving Byrd a rematch, even when Byrd was the highest rated option, seems so easily forgotten.

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    • JAB5239
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      #432
      Originally posted by Clegg
      I have seen this guy claim Bowe ducked the K bros many times no matter how much he's corrected. Odd to create your own false memories like that. Meanwhile Vitali never giving Byrd a rematch, even when Byrd was the highest rated option, seems so easily forgotten.
      You and I are firmly on the same page concerning this.

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        #433
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - Them Lewie/Vander/Tyson/BigDummy cherries found lesser opponents to finish out their careers.
        Evander fought
        Byrd
        Moorer x2
        Ruiz x3
        Bowex3
        Tyson x2
        Mercer
        Douglas
        Holmes
        Foreman
        Thomas
        Dokes
        Stewart x2
        Toney
        Valuev
        Ibragimov
        Rahman
        Tillis
        Oquendo
        Cooper
        Bean
        Just 2 years of his resume ****s all over Vitali's entire career !


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        • JAB5239
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          #434
          Originally posted by Ivich
          Evander fought
          Byrd
          Moorer x2
          Ruiz x3
          Bowex3
          Tyson x2
          Mercer
          Douglas
          Holmes
          Foreman
          Thomas
          Dokes
          Stewart x2
          Toney
          Valuev
          Ibragimov
          Rahman
          Tillis
          Oquendo
          Cooper
          Bean
          Just 2 years of his resume ****s all over Vitali's entire career !

          But Vitaly was never down on the cards in a fight!! He would beat all those guys!! Because I can imagine him doing it!! The nonsense has reached a fever pitch!!

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          • QueensburyRules
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            #435
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Had his license suspended in 2005 after 3 losses culminating in Donald, the reason he retired for 2 years, hence the Russians in DKing promotions where he's wheeled out like a cadaver for promotional effect of a title shot, ie not a Ring ranked fighter nor even licensed.

            Years past you could be seen beating on dead horses...
            - - Just a reminder for all you jibberjabber monkeys.

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            • shawnkemp804
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              #436
              Originally posted by them_apples
              very underrated, and levels above Wlad in every category - Vitali was likely the last great heavyweight champion.

              if he was in his prime today, Wilder, Fury and Joshua would be journeymen.

              Not speaking on behalf of his resume, which I think is also underrated - Mostly from just viewing his fights and style.

              Vitali had so many qualities that made him great:

              6 ft 8, Iron chin, good defense, not lifted or blown up (natural size) which means better stamina and agility. and most of all HEART.

              You can argue all you want, but Vitali would toy with Wlad had they ever fought.


              Vitali isn't 6'8 he is 6'7. Second Wladimir fought and beat better fighters than Vitali beat. Third Vitali didn't have a iron chin. He had a good chin that he protected by running and grabbing. Corrie Sanders had Vitali out on his feet with one punch. Lennox Lewis bucked Vitali through out there fight. 4th Vitali wasn't naturally sized. He was on the juice. So the last great heavyweight was Lennox Lewis. Vitali himself was lucky by the time he started moving up in rank guys like Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, etc careers were coming to a end.

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              • them_apples
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                #437
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                There are others as well. And as tough as I think Vits was, I just can't rank him highly amongst all time greats.
                Imo He’s def not ranked high as an atg, he’s at the near bottom. I do think he’s better than everyone today though. I would pick him over Fury 9/10

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                  #438
                  Originally posted by them_apples

                  Imo Heās def not ranked high as an atg, heās at the near bottom. I do think heās better than everyone today though. I would pick him over Fury 9/10
                  He may well be. I think he beats Wilder, definitely AJ, Usyk is an interesting fight I think he should win. Fury is a 50\50 fight for me. I don't think Vits can stop him, he doesn't have the power in my opinion, but he could outpunch him for a decision. Than again Fury clay make him look like he did Wlad.

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                    #439
                    Originally posted by Ivich
                    Evander fought
                    Byrd
                    Moorer x2
                    Ruiz x3
                    Bowex3
                    Tyson x2
                    Mercer
                    Douglas
                    Holmes
                    Foreman
                    Thomas
                    Dokes
                    Stewart x2
                    Toney
                    Valuev
                    Ibragimov
                    Rahman
                    Tillis
                    Oquendo
                    Cooper
                    Bean
                    Just 2 years of his resume ****s all over Vitali's entire career !

                    I don't know how to tell you, Vitali did in fact fight and win nearly ever round vs Bean. Most of that list was washed up in the early 2000's and NOT RANKED and managed by Don King. Valuev said no thanks to and offer to fight Vitali. The Rhaman fight was singed, but VK was injured then and had to withdraw. Some of the other names in the 2000's were SHOT past thier prime fighters. VK was set to fight Tyson. They took promtial pictures together but Danny Willams beat Tyson so he fought him instead. That's the history of that list.

                    Vitali vs OLD men is the 2000's like Holmes, Foreman, Stewart, Dokes, Toney, Tills, and Cooper? Or Beating up a shot Holyfeid?

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                    • Dr. Z
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                      #440
                      Originally posted by shawnkemp804


                      Vitali isn't 6'8 he is 6'7. Second Wladimir fought and beat better fighters than Vitali beat. Third Vitali didn't have a iron chin. He had a good chin that he protected by running and grabbing. Corrie Sanders had Vitali out on his feet with one punch. Lennox Lewis bucked Vitali through out there fight. 4th Vitali wasn't naturally sized. He was on the juice. So the last great heavyweight was Lennox Lewis. Vitali himself was lucky by the time he started moving up in rank guys like Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, etc careers were coming to a end.
                      Vitali was listed at 6'7" 245- 250 pounds with an 80 " reach. He dominated the guys who beat Wlad in Purrity and Sanders, and dominated Peter who gave Wlad a much tougher fight. That is if you want to compre the two.

                      Vitail was never floored, nor was he down on points after 3 rounds. His chin was excelllet as was his ability to win rounds. He was 8-2 vs Ring Magazine top 10 rated and his KO % is among the highest in history. His 2 defeats were due to an injury and a ring doctor calling a halt to match on cuts. He never got re-mathces, but you say he was lucky?

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