Where does Deontay Wilder stack up against the early 80's HW scene?

[JAB5239]

- - More power to not only duck the top heavies, but to TBA the leftovers in the most padded record since Lamar Clark.

That's funny, I don't recall Clark k coming out a rated contender or even a formerly rated contender let alone a former titlist. Can you enlighten me on the contenders Clark knocked out?

[QueensburyRules]

That's funny, I don't recall Clark k coming out a rated contender or even a formerly rated contender let alone a former titlist. Can you enlighten me on the contenders Clark knocked out?

- - Sure, just sub out Lamar era with Deyonce era where Lamar get to operate under Haymon padding.

Deyonce have a ways to match Lar 0-6, 0 KO title record vs standing champs having won their title in the ring. Deyonce only 0-1, 0 KO.

[JAB5239]

- - Sure, just sub out Lamar era with Deyonce era where Lamar get to operate under Haymon padding.

Deyonce have a ways to match Lar 0-6, 0 KO title record vs standing champs having won their title in the ring. Deyonce only 0-1, 0 KO.

Whatever you say!!

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Sure, just sub out Lamar era with Deyonce era where Lamar get to operate under Haymon padding.

Deyonce have a ways to match Lar 0-6, 0 KO title record vs standing champs having won their title in the ring. Deyonce only 0-1, 0 KO.

I can't get in line with your "standing champs having won their titles..."

I keep misinterpreting it.

I got Wilder at 2-2-1 under what I think it means.

Granted the two wins are both against Stiverne, but he, Stiverne did win the title in an elimination bout with Arreola. So Wilder has at least one victory against a title holder, Stiverne, who won his title in the ring, against Arreola. No?

[QueensburyRules]

I can't get in line with your "standing champs having won their titles..."

I keep misinterpreting it.

I got Wilder at 2-2-1 under what I think it means.

Granted the two wins are both against Stiverne, but he, Stiverne did win the title in an elimination bout with Arreola. So Wilder has at least one victory against a title holder, Stiverne, who won his title in the ring, against Arreola. No?

- - Eliminations ain't never been World title bouts. They're for the right to challenge for the title, but remembering what everyone wanted to forget at the time, when Vit retired, Stiverne fought Arreola in a rematch for the Vacant title, so indeed, Deyonce still better than Lar.

Oh the shame of the shameless and Lar...

[kara]

- - More power to not only duck the top heavies, but to TBA the leftovers in the most padded record since Lamar Clark.

Not when he knocks out Ruiz

[QueensburyRules]

Not when he knocks out Ruiz

- - Not when he don't sign to KO Ruiz.

Fat Andy > Deyonce

[dreamroom]

-Mike Weaver
-John Tate
- Gerrie Coetzee
-Gerry Cooney
-Michael Dokes
-Greg Page
-Tim Witherspoon

Who does Deontay beat?

Yeah, he'd do OK against most of the early 80's bunch, except Cooney and Holmes.

[dreamroom]

I think Wilder is underrated by a lot of people. I’m not always a fan of his personality but he comes to fight. I believe he has the hardest punch in history and he throws it. He has stamina. He’s long. He gets off the floor and has heart.
He’s not heavy so there has to be an aspect of speed to his punches to hit that hard. I think he knocks all those guys out.
He caught Helenius with two knuckles half ****ed bouncing off the ropes. He was out bad. If you were a Wilder detractor you wouldn’t have expected that type of punch or KO from it.
You can want Wilder to lose, but a guy with that much belief, length and power… the real proof is how much you are willing to spend to bet against him.

Pretty strong statement.

[Blond Beast]

Pretty strong statement.

Yes, but I also said it was my belief and didn’t call anyone out if they thought otherwise. Still it’s what I do believe, and have no problem having an opinion. It’s not as fun to hum and haw and never pick someone. I’ve seen plenty of Ernie Shavers fights on tv when I was a kid, be it a replay or whatever. The rest on YouTube. Liston also. All of Foreman’s. I know all the fighters since before Cribb. Even if you got ten guys who fought all the same hardest punchers they’d never agree on who hit the hardest.
I just think for me personally if I had to take the hardest single punch from one of the guys on the list, Wilder would be my last choice. I mean blindfolded hands tied behind your back and a lit dury in your mouth.