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Where does Deontay Wilder stack up against the early 80's HW scene?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Weaver a notorious slow starter as is Deyonce, but Weaver can punch and that's a lotta body to punch.
    Weaver was a decent t puncher, but I don't think snyone would put him on the same level as Wilder. He'd also be giving up almost 6 inches in reach and height.
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    • #12
      He beats all of the 'early '80s guys but Holmes.

      Again, just because Tyson Fury at 6'9 280lbs got up 4x from his bombs doesn't mean 99% of HWs who ever lived would.

      Wilder at his best under 215 is a freak of nature who ALWAYS lands the right hand eventually.

      He might get outboxed, but once he hits guys, they're done
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      • #13
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        I think he beats Weaver, Coetzee, Tate and Dokes. Loses to Page by decision and gets stopped by Cooney and Witherspoon. He would be certain to have held the WBA title at one point had he fought then.
        And of course he would loose to Tyson and Holmes.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

          And of course he would loose to Tyson and Holmes.
          I don't think Tyson is in the equation as he didn't debit until 1985.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
            He beats all of the 'early '80s guys but Holmes.

            Again, just because Tyson Fury at 6'9 280lbs got up 4x from his bombs doesn't mean 99% of HWs who ever lived would.

            Wilder at his best under 215 is a freak of nature who ALWAYS lands the right hand eventually.

            He might get outboxed, but once he hits guys, they're done
            - - Gotta sign the contract to fight them.

            Never fought the top guys, so he has that in common wif Lar.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - Gotta sign the contract to fight them.

              Never fought the top guys, so he has that in common wif Lar.
              He fought THEE top guy 3x.

              That's 3x more than Joshua has fought Fury.

              None of those other "top fighters" are worth a damn.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                He fought THEE top guy 3x.

                That's 3x more than Joshua has fought Fury.

                None of those other "top fighters" are worth a damn.
                - - OK, you like Duckers of AJ Riches fighting each other for Peanuts.

                Go figure how that arithmetic adds up because nobody but the math illiterate could come to your conclusion.

                Flubber title record is 5-0, 4 KO with 2 of his 3 defenses vs fighters he beat twice before. His 3rd defense was against Whyte whom AJ and 40 yr old Povetkin already knocked out. He and Deyonce eminently more qualified for the Hall of Shame Quackers than anything else, so thanks for the reminder...

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                • #18
                  The early 80's huh?
                  To preface my remarks, I've followed each of the following from their earliest professional days, I'm aquainted with MANY of them, friends with a couple of them and I've seen most of them live. Does that make me anything special on this board or anywhere else? No. Not a bit.
                  But it might well inform my opinions.

                  Hypothetical matches:
                  Prime Deontay Wilder vs. A prime 1980+.......

                  Larry Holmes....................L UD 12
                  Gerry Cooney....................W. KO 11
                  Tim Witherspoon.............W. UD 12
                  Mike Weaver....................W KO. 5
                  Michael Dokes.................W TKO. 10
                  Earnie Shavers.................W KO. 3
                  Pinklon Thomas..............W TKO 12
                  Greg Page........................W SD. 12
                  Gerrie Coetzee.................W TKO 11
                  Ken Norton......................W KO. 4
                  Tony Tucker.....................W. UD 12
                  John Tate........................W KO. 8
                  Tony Tubbs.....................W TKO. 12
                  Jimmy Young..................W. TKO. 7
                  Trevor Berbick.................W. TKO 8
                  Bonecusher Smith..........W. TKO. 7
                  Carl Williams...................W. KO. 8
                  Frank Bruno.....................W KO 10
                  Renaldo Snipes...............W TKO 9
                  Leon Spinks.....................W KO. 6
                  Scott LeDoux...................W TKO. 6
                  Leroy Jones.....................W. TKO 10
                  Dino Dennis.....................W TKO 9
                  Quick Tillis.......................W. KO 8
                  Tex Cobb..........................W. TKO 8
                  Marvis Frazier..................W KO 1
                  Dabid Bey.........................W. TKO 5
                  Lucien Rodriguez.............W KO 6
                  Lorenzo Zannon..............W. KO 1
                  George Chaplin................W KO 4
                  Alfredo Evangelista.........W KO. 3
                  James Broad...................W KO 5
                  Steffen Tangstad.............W KO 3
                  Eddie Gregg.....................W KO 4
                  Jesse Furguson...............W. KO 3
                  Osvaldo Occasio..............W KO 2
                  Joe Bugner.......................W. TKO 7
                  Bernardo Marcado...........W. TKO. 3
                  Phil Brown........................W. KO. 6
                  Franco Thomas................W. KO 5
                  Stan Ward.........................W. KO. 8
                  Gordon Racette................W. KO. 3
                  John L. Gardner................W KO. 2
                  Marty Monroe...................W. KO. 4
                  Lynn Ball...........................W KO. 3
                  Mike Koranicki.................W. KO. 2
                  Tony Fulilangi...................W KO. 4
                  Nino Ribalta.....................W. KO. 3
                  Albert Syben....................W. KO. 1
                  Domingo D'Elia................W. KO. 1
                  Chris McDonald...............W KO. 2
                  Felipe Rodriguez..............W KO. 1
                  Jimmy Abbott..................W KO. 1
                  Gordon Ferris...................W KO. 4
                  Larry Alexander................W. KO. 5
                  Monty Masters.................W. KO. 1
                  David Pearce....................W. KO. 1
                  Neville Meade..................W KO. 2
                  Clarence Hill.....................W. KO. 1
                  Bennie Knoetzee........... W. KO. 1

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - OK, you like Duckers of AJ Riches fighting each other for Peanuts.

                    Go figure how that arithmetic adds up because nobody but the math illiterate could come to your conclusion.

                    Flubber title record is 5-0, 4 KO with 2 of his 3 defenses vs fighters he beat twice before. His 3rd defense was against Whyte whom AJ and 40 yr old Povetkin already knocked out. He and Deyonce eminently more qualified for the Hall of Shame Quackers than anything else, so thanks for the reminder...
                    Can somebody translate this nonsense for me?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                      Can somebody translate this nonsense for me?
                      It's as indiscerible as Egyptian hieroglyphics to a two year old.​
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