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Where does Deontay Wilder stack up against the early 80's HW scene?

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  • #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Yeah, that's why Deyonce turned down a career purse more than his entire career purses cobbled together when Hearns was looking for an opponent for AJ American debut.

    How much she make fighting Jason Gavern @StubHub on that undercard in front of a half dozen spectators, prob his family.
    Wilder was coming off the Fury fight when AJ crossed the Pont. He fought Breazeale to keep busy and than rematched Ortiz who at the time was seen as a much more dangerous fight than Andy Ruiz, who incidentally stopped AJ. Wilder would have crucified him. Joshua has been thanking God every day since.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      Wilder was coming off the Fury fight when AJ crossed the Pont. He fought Breazeale to keep busy and than rematched Ortiz who at the time was seen as a much more dangerous fight than Andy Ruiz, who incidentally stopped AJ. Wilder would have crucified him. Joshua has been thanking God every day since.
      - - You can't carry AJ jockstrap anymore than Lar could carry Rocky.

      Eddie dropped Ortiz after giving him a tryout in UK against a Brit journey. Massive FAIL, hence Deyonce picking up them scraps.

      Seems you go for them light in the loafer guys instead of real fighters.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by PhillyShellSlick View Post
        -Mike Weaver
        -John Tate
        - Gerrie Coetzee
        -Gerry Cooney
        -Michael Dokes
        -Greg Page
        -Tim Witherspoon

        Who does Deontay beat?
        On that list, the only L for Wilder would possibly be losing a decision to Terrible Tim if the best Witherspoon tuned up.

        The rest are probably KO wins at some point during the fight for Wilder.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - You can't carry AJ jockstrap anymore than Lar could carry Rocky.

          Eddie dropped Ortiz after giving him a tryout in UK against a Brit journey. Massive FAIL, hence Deyonce picking up them scraps.

          Seems you go for them light in the loafer guys instead of real fighters.
          Why would I want to carry his jockstrap? Seems you've already filled that position. If and when the time comes, would you like to wager some money on AJ and I'll take Wilder? We'll keep it friendly. Let's say $100?

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          • #65
            you can dig up Joe Louis from his grave and I would still pick him over AJ.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Why would I want to carry his jockstrap? Seems you've already filled that position. If and when the time comes, would you like to wager some money on AJ and I'll take Wilder? We'll keep it friendly. Let's say $100?
              - - Why I wager on a crooked sport? That's for either the usual dummies(you) or the insiders like the commish battalions and other big players with inside info.

              Don't buy ****** currency either.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Yeah, that's why Deyonce turned down a career purse more than his entire career purses cobbled together when Hearns was looking for an opponent for AJ American debut.

                How much she make fighting Jason Gavern @StubHub on that undercard in front of a half dozen spectators, prob his family.
                Yes, except that.....none of that is history.

                Three Undefeated Heavyweights calling themselves Champion of the World in the Spring of 2019. Anthony Joshua, 22-0-0 (21) holder of several Alphabelts and wins over Skelton, Sprott, Johnson, Cornish, Whyte, Martin, Breazeale, Molina, Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin, who collectively have gone 49-55-2 since meeting him, and yet some claim, even today that Joshua had "done the most good work" in the era.

                Deontay Wilder, 41-0-1 (40), nearly twice the KO's as Joshua has total fights, and by far the most successful title defenses of the three reigning kings, and claiming wins over Beck, Price, Harrison, Lyakhovich, Scott, Stiverne x2, Molina, Duhaupaus, Szpilka, Arreola, Washington, Ortiz and Breazeale.


                Tyson Fury, 28-0-1 (20)
                The man who beat the man and undefeated holder of the only real heavyweight championship on earth.
                Numerically the 2nd most impressive record. But by spring of 2019 he's lost some time on a medical sabbatical, and while nobody has claimed a new supremacy during his absence ala Joe Frazier in 71', the many cheap title belts have been sold off to promoters and divied up.

                Obviously, with such tremendous talent at the top of a truely great heavyweight class; a collection bigger, stronger and more modern than their predecessors; a grand tournament is highly in order to clear up any confusion about who is the best of them all.
                Tyson Fury, the only real champion steps up to take on the most dangerous of the three, and Deontay Wilder steps up also to answer the challenge. Unification has begun!!!
                But the two giants are equal and fight to a DRAW! Wilder showing his unparalleled power and Fury his gift for pure boxing, each showing off their greatest strengths in a classic battle that cannot be decided in just a single meeting.

                It is now time for Joshua to join the other two and step up.
                But first a pesky bit of business against a manditory challenger. Big Baby Miller, or a last minute substitute, a big somebody, anybody. Reaching outside the top 10 for an available foil, so that that the sport can get on to it's bigger business of wiping up any possible confusion as to who owns the era following the fall of the Klitschko monopoly in 2015.
                But NO!!!!! Joshua is battered, repeatedly knocked down and then quits while staring dejectedly at the floor, as the stunned referee waives the Joshua time in the sun over. More stumbling will come for him as the better two champions make history with their epic wars!

                Terribly sad for Joshua and his fans.

                A legacy rewritten, if written at all.

                Once so smug, so assuming of his status, now fit only as a stepping stone for the next a scalp for either Fury or Wilder to add to their lengthy collection.
                Or perhas all of those things, but quite little more.

                And that. That's history.​

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                  Yes, except that.....none of that is history.
                  - - Hah, hah, a history denier, Sandy Hook denier, Moon Landing denier, and flat earth supporter...all right then!!!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Why I wager on a crooked sport? That's for either the usual dummies(you) or the insiders like the commish battalions and other big players with inside info.

                    Don't buy ****** currency either.
                    You sound scared. I'll tell you what...if you think it's a dodgy decision or stoppage we'll put a poll up asking if either fighter was wrongfully robbed. If the poll is in favor of AJ being robbed, I'll pay up. But I seriously doubt it goes to decision. "What's your excuse gonna be tonight Roy?"

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                    • #70
                      Getting back on topic. Wilder may knock them all out. That's not because he's great. It's because they suck. one of the worse eras in HW history.

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