Where does Deontay Wilder stack up against the early 80's HW scene?

[Willow The Wisp]

He could probably get Coetze. Thats the only one on that list who I think would be willing to eat a few. Thats if coetzee doesn't weather it and start feeding Wilder. The rest should be good enough to beat Wilder or even knock him out.

Who has Wilder beat? Seriously. That 41 year old that was schooling him for 8 rounds or so, I'm pretty sure thats all he's even known for. Schooling a guy who can't box and getting caught with a lucky punch.

Dokes, witherspoon, page and Cooney are too good for Wilder in every other area. probably one sided.

Ah, common. Wilder caught everyone he's ever fought including Fury. What makes Fury unique is that he got up 4 times. But barely. This is the richest, biggest and most modern heavyweight division ever, and while Fury and Wilder a just about on par with each other, there's 10 country miles after them before we can see the unproven Usyk, the chinny media created Joshua, the next victim Ruiz and the whole range of contenders that Wilder has been feasting on for years. You dislike Wilder, and that's the fun of being a fan; but that doesn't dictate reality, does it? Holmes would've outboxed the Bronze Bomber and survived the power. So would Foreman, but Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis and the Klitschkos might only possibly have had a chance, but one shot and it'sover, even for the usually sturdy but slower Vitali, the least of those 5. I know that its rude to contradict another good poster, but it was something that you benefit from hearing.

[kara]

Ah, common. Wilder caught everyone he's ever fought including Fury. What makes Fury unique is that he got up 4 times. But barely. This is the richest, biggest and most modern heavyweight division ever, and while Fury and Wilder a just about on par with each other, there's 10 country miles after them before we can see the unproven Usyk, the chinny media created Joshua, the next victim Ruiz and the whole range of contenders that Wilder has been feasting on for years. You dislike Wilder, and that's the fun of being a fan; but that doesn't dictate reality, does it? Holmes would've outboxed the Bronze Bomber and survived the power. So would Foreman, but Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis and the Klitschkos might only possibly have had a chance, but one shot and it'sover, even for the usually sturdy but slower Vitali, the least of those 5. I know that its rude to contradict another good poster, but it was something that you benefit from hearing.

In reality, first fight could have been waved off and there would have been little controversy. Fury was laying there motionless.

[QueensburyRules]

In reality, first fight could have been waved off and there would have been little controversy. Fury was laying there motionless.

- - Story goes that Blubber opened his eyes after hitting the deck and winked at Reiss, and indeed followed the count that likely was longer than the ideal 10 sec, but Deyonce also got perks during his KDs, so there you go.

[mrbig1]

In reality, first fight could have been waved off and there would have been little controversy. Fury was laying there motionless.

Fury was not taking a beating plus he was winning the fight. Most Refs would give him a chance to finish the fight.

[Willie Pep 229]

Fury was not taking a beating plus he was winning the fight. Most Refs would give him a chance to finish the fight.

I agree it should be that way.

But I would be scared that a Steele or Lane would see my closed eyes and wave the fight off. Some referees interjected themselves into fights when they shouldn't.

I do believe Fury did wink at the referee or gave some acknowledgment that made the referee know Fury was playing the crowd.

I wonder why that made the refree shout the count in Fury's ear? ????

Fury is a 'fan favorite' and while I hate anything about his WWE nature, I do recognize that his over the top personality has been good for the game.

[kara]

Fury was not taking a beating plus he was winning the fight. Most Refs would give him a chance to finish the fight.

I don't disagree but even his own family and brothers admit to getting up and starting to make their way to the ring because they thought he was out cold.

[Dr. Z]

Where does Deontay Wilder stack up against the early 80's HW scene?

Mostly prone.

[mrbig1]

Ah, common. Wilder caught everyone he's ever fought including Fury. What makes Fury unique is that he got up 4 times. But barely. This is the richest, biggest and most modern heavyweight division ever, and while Fury and Wilder a just about on par with each other, there's 10 country miles after them before we can see the unproven Usyk, the chinny media created Joshua, the next victim Ruiz and the whole range of contenders that Wilder has been feasting on for years. You dislike Wilder, and that's the fun of being a fan; but that doesn't dictate reality, does it? Holmes would've outboxed the Bronze Bomber and survived the power. So would Foreman, but Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis and the Klitschkos might only possibly have had a chance, but one shot and it'sover, even for the usually sturdy but slower Vitali, the least of those 5. I know that its rude to contradict another good poster, but it was something that you benefit from hearing.

Hello, my friend, there is one problem to what you are saying. Wilder can't box. Wilder footwork is a joke. Fury does. So does Lewis and Vitali. Lewis is a much biggest punch than Fury. That fight won't go past 4. Vitali has very good footwork and a very good counter puncher. Wilder might last 8.

[Willow The Wisp]

I was pretty impressed by Fury's power in stretching Dillian Whyte with one shot. Something Joshua couldn't do.

[QueensburyRules]

I was pretty impressed by Fury's power in stretching Dillian Whyte with one shot. Something Joshua couldn't do.

- - 40 yr old Povetkin picked by Whyte out of the Shyte pile iced Whyte near death for 5 minutes before he came around, something Blubber couldn't do.