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December 1963 extended Interview with Champion Sonny Liston - discusses Ali defense, his contenders, even the JFK Assassination

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    He also includes that silly conclusion LHO was seeking a place in history. Hopefully I debunked a little of that absurdity above.

    That he did it because his wife didn't think he was a 'real man' is sad but probably more likely than a CIA/mob hit.

    I still say he acted alone but there was somewhere, someone he intended, after the fact, to strut around in front of.

    JFK died because this guy saw himself as a loser and couldn't live with it and was determined to prove to those around him he was special.

    Too simple?

    But he held no desire for the history books; he wanted to get away with it.

    He doesn't match the behavior of a long list of losers (see post above) who wanted/want public aclaim for their maddness. LHO dosen't fit the MO associated: instead he killed from a distance, fled the scence, killed again, hid, and then vehemently denied.

    Conspiracy? Only with those unfortunate enough to have their lives entangled with him They were his unwitting motivators/audience.
    So many people in the mob wanted him dead and the mob was still "the mob" back then... Trafficanti (Senior) and marchello drew a lot of water... I find it hard to believe they were not involved. They killed Monroe... Mob guys have confirmed so much... To protect Kennedy.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      So many people in the mob wanted him dead and the mob was still "the mob" back then... Trafficanti (Senior) and marchello drew a lot of water... I find it hard to believe they were not involved. They killed Monroe... Mob guys have confirmed so much... To protect Kennedy.
      - - Natch got a bio of Marilyn and the only person in her residence was her housekeeper, so are you claiming her housekeeper was working for the mob?

      It's never a surprise when someone uses sedatives to kill themselves.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
        Marksman is the lowest qualifying grade a recruit can receive.

        Saying LHO was a marksman kind of suggests he was not a 'great' shot.

        But at the same time achieving a marksman badge still does make you better than 95% of the population.

        For him to have made those three shots, two hits, will always be open to debate.

        What his 'buddies' in the Corp said about him is qualified information.

        He enlisted in 1956 and you only spend several weeks on The Island (Paris) where this issue would have played out. Then these vets were asked by reporters/Warren Commission seven year later, after the assassination, to remember a particular recurit (and that person's ability to shoot) when in reality they probably barely noticed him at the time.

        FROM: https://www.operationmilitarykids.or...on/#usmc-rifle

        There are three levels of scoring in the Marine Corps into which recruits fall.

        Also, Marines earn a marksmanship badge to celebrate their score.

        These include:
        • Marksman
        • Sharpshooter
        • Expert
        Marksman

        A marksman is the lowest score possible to qualify still, and the scoring range is 250-279.

        Sharpshooter

        A sharpshooter is the next level of expertise.

        To be a sharpshooter, you must have a combined score of 280-304.

        Expert

        The highest level of expertise in marksmanship is Expert.

        You will need a score of 305-350 to qualify at this level.

        - - I was using the Marksman term in the general sense. Lee actually qualified as Sharpshooter.

        Not remembering the post, but you did an excellent job of detailing the extent of KKKlan reach by the 20s and 30s. Interestingly they were then equally taking over parts of Texas, but Ma and Pa Ferguson who were the people's champions managed to squelch them with successive governor elections that kicked them into a marginal status. Klan were bigger in many northern states than in Texas, and of course everything east of Louisiana was Klan territory all the way up to DC as you mentioned.
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