is it true that Andrew Golata could of beat Bowe twice?

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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #31
    Originally posted by shawnkemp804

    Bowe was on the downside of his career when he faced Golota. Golota beating a shop worn boy isn't a indication of what he could of or would of done. Lennox Lewis, Michael Grant, David Tua, and others would of and in the case Lennox Lewis and Grant would of still knocked out Golota.
    Bull****. Rid**** Bowe was 28 freekin' years old when they first fought and had just turned 29 before the 2nd time. Bowe's weight of 235 was his ideal weight, 5 lbs under what it was for Holyfield III. Bowe was coming of 5 wins against some of the best opponents he'd ever face when Golota beat him up in July 96'. Whatever "Downside" Bowe was experiencing was Andrew Golota's doing.

    The excuse that Golota beat Bowe twice had anything to do with Bowe being past it is a reinventing of history.
    Golota beat Bowe in two one sided fights because Golota was a slightly better fighter than Bowe was head to head on their respective best day. Bowe was much better managed, and perhaps a little more stable, if only just. That's why his record is so good. ​

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #32
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      I think if you take out the low blows, Bowe beats him.

      Bowe was sliding no doubt, but when Bowe was allowed to box he was building momentum. But each time Bowe started to find his zone Golota would hit him low (and not tactically low like Dempsey use to do) with hard shots that stopped the action.

      Bowe would again slowly start to build his mojo and another low blow would stop the action.

      Both DQs were necessary. The issue wasn't decided but couldn't be allowed to play out as it was.

      But Bowe pulling out a decision in either fight seems to me the most likely outcome.

      I think Golota needed those low blows to stay in the fight.
      - - Not really Pep. Bowe was a nonentity vs Golota, end of. He didn't need lowblows, but Golota was a genuine thug and so reverted to type.

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        #33
        Originally posted by cashdon

        Who is the FABULOUS lady???? As a man of culture I must ask!!!
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          #34
          Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

          Bull****. Rid**** Bowe was 28 freekin' years old when they first fought and had just turned 29 before the 2nd time. Bowe's weight of 235 was his ideal weight, 5 lbs under what it was for Holyfield III. Bowe was coming of 5 wins against some of the best opponents he'd ever face when Golota beat him up in July 96'. Whatever "Downside" Bowe was experiencing was Andrew Golota's doing.

          The excuse that Golota beat Bowe twice had anything to do with Bowe being past it is a reinventing of history.
          Golota beat Bowe in two one sided fights because Golota was a slightly better fighter than Bowe was head to head on their respective best day. Bowe was much better managed, and perhaps a little more stable, if only just. That's why his record is so good. ​
          Exactly. Bowe didn't train, overlooked Golota and never recovered after that first beatdown.

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            #35
            Originally posted by markusmod

            Exactly. Bowe didn't train, overlooked Golota and never recovered after that first beatdown.
            - - Led to Big Dummy being first in the mess line and last into the field that severed his military career before it ever started...snickers...


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              #36
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules

              - - Led to Big Dummy being first in the mess line and last into the field that severed his military career before it ever started...snickers...


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              Fine fighter before his self discipline failed him.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                Bull****. Rid**** Bowe was 28 freekin' years old when they first fought and had just turned 29 before the 2nd time. Bowe's weight of 235 was his ideal weight, 5 lbs under what it was for Holyfield III. Bowe was coming of 5 wins against some of the best opponents he'd ever face when Golota beat him up in July 96'. Whatever "Downside" Bowe was experiencing was Andrew Golota's doing.

                The excuse that Golota beat Bowe twice had anything to do with Bowe being past it is a reinventing of history.
                Golota beat Bowe in two one sided fights because Golota was a slightly better fighter than Bowe was head to head on their respective best day. Bowe was much better managed, and perhaps a little more stable, if only just. That's why his record is so good. ​
                Prime Bowe would have been a toss up with Lewis ,imo Golota would always be cake for Lennox imo.

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                  #38
                  Bowe who was trained by the great Eddie Futch was a joy to watch coming up. After becoming champ the refrigerator was his toughest opponent. He would blow up to 300+ pounds between fights. Bowe was another James Toney. Great skills just didn't care.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ivich

                    Fine fighter before his self discipline failed him.
                    I remember an interview where he discussed how he couldnt stay away from sweets

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