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Robinson didn't KO Fullmer whilst moving backwards.It's a myth started by shortsighted careless viewers.

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  • #11
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - - Seems like U perception be off, like way off.

    Ray moves backwards to lure Gene in, sets and punches with his right anchor foot doing a mini hop off the original landing spot. In real time in the ring it looks pretty seamless, and even in the slower tape it's damn near seamless.

    I could deliver most any punch in the book going backwards as I used to do on my heavybag all the time.

    I also practiced Ali's one punch Anchor Punch showed him by Stepin Fetchit using his exact footwork if we want to talk about an impossible ko punch. Zero power off balance flying backwards, but it was delivered as Sonny missed a big left hook leaving him stooped and off balance already moving to the canvas. Ali caught him on the temple with a little snap at the end he put on all his cutting punches and the rest a Three Stooges 3 ring circus act.

    You're an undiscovered boxing genius. The other posters on here agree with my position. Robinson moved FORWARD. and his weight was on he LEFT foot. Had to be for a solid left hook. | transferred from rt foot to left. I know boxing, you don't.

    I threw left hooks too. left jab -right cross, -and finish up with a left hook. On REAL fighters, not punch bags. 39 KOs out of 62 fights -amateur of course, but no head gear or such crap. Not that easy to get KOs in 3-4 round fights. Need a good punch.

    You remind me of the old Irish woman who was watching a march past of a squad of soldiers. "There goes me boy, G-D Belssim, The only wan in shtep".....
    I think you like it that way.

    Last edited by edgarg; 05-30-2022, 03:16 PM.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
      You're an undiscovered boxing genius. The other posters on here agree with my position. Robinson moved FORWARD. and his weight was on he LEFT foot. Had to be for a solid left hook. | transferred from rt foot to left. I know boxing, you don't.

      I threw left hooks too. left jab -right cross, -and finish up with a left hook. On REAL fighters, not punch bags. 39 KOs out of 62 fights -amateur of course, but no head gear or such crap. Not that easy to get KOs in 3-4 round fights. Need a good punch.

      You remind me of the old Irish woman who was watching a march past of a squad of soldiers. "There goes me boy, G-D Belssim, The only wan in shtep".....
      I think you like it that way.
      - -Don't take much to be a genius on this forum.

      As mentioned, Ray does a mini-hop of his original planting right foot after moving backwards, a seamless transfer to the front left foot.

      Hence the backwards claim. Simples for me to see, but U old eyes and cognitive dissonance interrupting the motion.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post


        I agree. Does not seem to be moving backwards at the time when he's punching.

        abouts :40 in the video.
        I would say his feet are perfectly positioned to throw a perfect punch.

        He is not moving backwards, he is not moving forward either. His feet are nailed to the floor, flat-footed just as they should be.

        I can understand how a sports' writer of the day, who saw it live, and couldn't see a reply (film) of the fight for at least a few weeks, could mistakenly report that SRR was moving backwards when he threw the punch.

        SRR was ofcourse is quick and he is moving backward for a two step, but then stops, steps forward and plants his feet.

        You might say he fooled the sports' writer as well as Fullmer (who walks right into it.) Both thought he was still moving backwards.

        When his punch lands on Fullmer he is 'perfectly' flat-footed. No movement at all. Beautiful!
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 05-30-2022, 04:42 PM.
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        • #14
          It is a good thing to smash boxing truisms.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - Seems like U perception be off, like way off.

            Ray moves backwards to lure Gene in, sets and punches with his right anchor foot doing a mini hop off the original landing spot. In real time in the ring it looks pretty seamless, and even in the slower tape it's damn near seamless.

            I could deliver most any punch in the book going backwards as I used to do on my heavybag all the time.

            I also practiced Ali's one punch Anchor Punch showed him by Stepin Fetchit using his exact footwork if we want to talk about an impossible ko punch. Zero power off balance flying backwards, but it was delivered as Sonny missed a big left hook leaving him stooped and off balance already moving to the canvas. Ali caught him on the temple with a little snap at the end he put on all his cutting punches and the rest a Three Stooges 3 ring circus act.

            You make me laugh... Ali taught an anchor punch by Stepin Fetchit. What did Fetchit know about anchor punches NOTHING.He was a Vaudeville and early movie comic actor. He first met Ali, because be became a Nation of Islam gumboil, he was about 65, and there's no evidence at all that he ever knew any early boxers who "taught" him an "anchor" punch.

            Meticulous Boxing History research shows no evidence that ANY fighter used anything but the normal series of punches. The LaBlanche pivot punch was outlawed. The "anchor punch" simply never existed.

            It was Ali who called it his "anchor punch",. To justify his invisible KO of Liston who actually faked the KD and KO. You may recall that Liston got up amid the hulaballoo, and began fighting again obviously not even shaken., until Nat Fleischer made Walcott stop the fight and declare it over.
            Ali actually did give :Liston a light tap at the time, whilst going backwards..
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            • #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - -Don't take much to be a genius on this forum.

              As mentioned, Ray does a mini-hop of his original planting right foot after moving backwards, a seamless transfer to the front left foot.

              Hence the backwards claim. Simples for me to see, but U old eyes and cognitive dissonance interrupting the motion.
              At last you admit that he transferred his weight to his FRONT LEFT foot. Now enlighten us as to how he could do this whilst moving backwards. A contortionist couldn't even do that. Cong**** for finally being a man. The rest of your comment is a bit obscure. You talk about your cognitive dissonance, but there's no shame in that .You are allowed, especially on this sight, to act as a dumbbell from tie to time, as you wish. Your original comment displayed visual dissonance, but I suppose it stems from your brain.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by edgarg View Post

                At last you admit that he transferred his weight to his FRONT LEFT foot. Now enlighten us as to how he could do this whilst moving backwards. A contortionist couldn't even do that. Cong**** for finally being a man. The rest of your comment is a bit obscure. You talk about your cognitive dissonance, but there's no shame in that .You are allowed, especially on this sight, to act as a dumbbell from tie to time, as you wish. Your original comment displayed visual dissonance, but I suppose it stems from your brain.
                - - I would never state something so ******ly as you demonstrate.

                The only thing stemming from your brain is your lack of nuance as to what transpired both strategically and physically. Robby's right anchor leg barely shifts from his reverse movement, ie a tiny hop, hence the uncoiling of the total body unfurling of mechanics of the KO uppercut.

                No, Robby wasn't engaged in full on sprint away from Gene to knock him out suddenly while still in retreat. There, sorted for U!!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by edgarg View Post

                  You make me laugh... Ali taught an anchor punch by Stepin Fetchit. What did Fetchit know about anchor punches NOTHING.He was a Vaudeville and early movie comic actor. He first met Ali, because be became a Nation of Islam gumboil, he was about 65, and there's no evidence at all that he ever knew any early boxers who "taught" him an "anchor" punch.

                  Meticulous Boxing History research shows no evidence that ANY fighter used anything but the normal series of punches. The LaBlanche pivot punch was outlawed. The "anchor punch" simply never existed.

                  It was Ali who called it his "anchor punch",. To justify his invisible KO of Liston who actually faked the KD and KO. You may recall that Liston got up amid the hulaballoo, and began fighting again obviously not even shaken., until Nat Fleischer made Walcott stop the fight and declare it over.
                  Ali actually did give :Liston a light tap at the time, whilst going backwards..
                  Stepin Fetchit that great fighter.lol

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                  • #19
                    Does anyone have other examples of Robinson knocking fighters out while retreating? If not, it's over.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                      Does anyone have other examples of Robinson knocking fighters out while retreating? If not, it's over.
                      I don't think there are any other examples of ANY fighter KOing someone when retreating, unless the guy stumbled and hit his own jaw with the canvas.
                      A good question. Certainly Robinson never did. But if it were possible, it would be he. Only "possible" exceptions I can think of might be a boxer of phenomenal strength like Jeffries or Johnson.

                      If a very strong fighter led an opponent to come very close into him, it could be done.with the retreater puttin all his weigh on his back foot and hooking that way. But would take split second synchronization......Maybe??

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