Weakest Heavtweight Era?

[The Old LefHook]

Here are all the second order heavyweight champs. Bottom Half (No particular Order). Some of the men are far from their actual ranking, and some near. Charles Martin may indeed be the worst, and V. Klit may be about #50 on this list, though he is probably nearer the middle.

By extension, everyone not on this list must be in the upper half of heavyweight champs. Some just barely made it, like Corbett and Chris Byrd.


1 Charles Martin
2 Roy Jones
3 Tommy Burns
4 Marvin Hart
5 Trevor Bryan
6 Joseph Parker
7 Andy Ruiz
8 Bob Fitzsimmons
9 John L. Sullivan
10 Ruslan Chagaev
11 Manuel Char
12 Tony Joshua
13 Lucas Browne
14 Bermane Stiverne
15 Alexander Povetkin
16 David Haye
17 Sultan Ibragimov
18 Sam Peter
19 Shannon Brigg
20 Oleg Maskaev
21 Siarhei Liakhovich
22 Nicolai Valuev
23 Hasim Rahman
24 Lamon Brewster
25 John Ruiz
26 Herbie Hide
27 Henry Akinwande
28 Michael Moorer
29 Frank Bruno
30 Bruce Seldon
31 Michael Bentt
32 Franceso Damiani
33 Trevor Berbick
34 Tim Witherspoon
35 Michael Spinks
36 Tony Tubbs
37 Greg Page
38 Pinklon Thomas
39 Gerrie Coetzee
40 Michael Dokes
41 Ernie Terrel
42 Ingomar Johansson
43 John Tate
44 Mike Weaver
45 James J. Braddock
46 Primo Carnera
47 Jack Sharkey
48 Max Schmeling
49 Jess Willard
50 Vitali Klitschko
51 Jimmy Ellis
52 Leon Spinks
53 Corrie Sanders

[Willie Pep 229]

Here are all the second order heavyweight champs. Bottom Half (No particular Order). Some of the men are far from their actual ranking, and some near. Charles Martin may indeed be the worst, and V. Klit may be about #50 on this list, though he is probably nearer the middle.

By extension, everyone not on this list must be in the upper half of heavyweight champs. Some just barely made it, like Corbett and Chris Byrd.


1 Charles Martin
2 Roy Jones
3 Tommy Burns
4 Marvin Hart
5 Trevor Bryan
6 Joseph Parker
7 Andy Ruiz
8 Bob Fitzsimmons
9 John L. Sullivan
10 Ruslan Chagaev
11 Manuel Char
12 Tony Joshua
13 Lucas Browne
14 Bermane Stiverne
15 Alexander Povetkin
16 David Haye
17 Sultan Ibragimov
18 Sam Peter
19 Shannon Brigg
20 Oleg Maskaev
21 Siarhei Liakhovich
22 Nicolai Valuev
23 Hasim Rahman
24 Lamon Brewster
25 John Ruiz
26 Herbie Hide
27 Henry Akinwande
28 Michael Moorer
29 Frank Bruno
30 Bruce Seldon
31 Michael Bentt
32 Franceso Damiani
33 Trevor Berbick
34 Tim Witherspoon
35 Michael Spinks
36 Tony Tubbs
37 Greg Page
38 Pinklon Thomas
39 Gerrie Coetzee
40 Michael Dokes
41 Ernie Terrel
42 Ingomar Johansson
43 John Tate
44 Mike Weaver
45 James J. Braddock
46 Primo Carnera
47 Jack Sharfkey
48 Max Schmeling
49 Jess Willard
50 Vitali Klitschko
51 Jimmy Ellis
52 Leon Spinks
53 Corrie Sanders

My God who are all these people?

I swear we need to pool our funds and start a scantioning body. There is money to be made creating champions.

What if we were to crown the first Youtube Champion and the first transgender champion?

Field's wide open for a new scantioning body.

[The Old LefHook]

There will always be disagreements here and there. But my list above captures perfectly the scrub population among heavyweight champs.

They would all kick our butts with one hand, but that is not the list. Now that we have eliminated them we can have some good mythical matchups between those in the upper half of heavyweight champs.

[The Old LefHook]

My God who are all these people?

I swear we need to pool our funds and start a scantioning body. There is money to be made creating champions.

What if we were to crown the first Youtube Champion and the first transgender champion?

Field's wide open for a new scantioning body.

Strangers for the most part, aren't they?

[them_apples]

Whaddaya got? I got the Joe Louis era easily.

either todays era or Wlads, its a tossup. Products of Marketing. Fury is decent but loses to any serious heavyweight of the past. Fury and Wlad are similar in level. We saw a prime Fury edge a decision over an ageing and always overated Wlad, so I rank them the same.

wilder vs fury is a great matchup because Wilder makes fury look good by being so bad at boxing, and Furys weak to average chin gives Wilder a fighting chance. Because the stakes are high they bring the best out of eachother a fight harder.

[markusmod]

That is as bad as well, but at least that era isn't ridiculously overrated, so it gets bonus points for that. Like the mythical 90s era, the reality of it is, Tyson going through bums in the 80s! Bowe being in good fights vs one opponent Holyfield, and Lewis' "90s" dominance, started and ended in 99, 1 year, hardly a decade. Lewis did more in the 2000s. But people like to spin things to suit their agenda/argument. Nash out.

Always good to have a little bit of Nash Out

[QueensburyRules]

either todays era or Wlads, its a tossup. Products of Marketing. Fury is decent but loses to any serious heavyweight of the past. Fury and Wlad are similar in level. We saw a prime Fury edge a decision over an ageing and always overated Wlad, so I rank them the same.

wilder vs fury is a great matchup because Wilder makes fury look good by being so bad at boxing, and Furys weak to average chin gives Wilder a fighting chance. Because the stakes are high they bring the best out of eachother a fight harder.

- - Traditionally the weakest era is the oldtimers that preceded your era and the young punks that can't hold your water bucket who came after.

Simples for simpletons of your era.

[Nash out]

either todays era or Wlads, its a tossup. Products of Marketing. Fury is decent but loses to any serious heavyweight of the past. Fury and Wlad are similar in level. We saw a prime Fury edge a decision over an ageing and always overated Wlad, so I rank them the same.

wilder vs fury is a great matchup because Wilder makes fury look good by being so bad at boxing, and Furys weak to average chin gives Wilder a fighting chance. Because the stakes are high they bring the best out of eachother a fight harder.

80s, 90s, Wlad era. Loses to any serious HW? Like who? Ali? Who hardly dominated anyone. Frazier, a poor man's Chisora, stiff, plodding Foreman, dog **** Tyson, 60 year old Liston, 5 ft 2 Marciano. Get real, pal. Fury could beat all of them at the same time. Live and learn. Be like Nash. Nash out.

[Willie Pep 229]

either todays era or Wlads, its a tossup. Products of Marketing. Fury is decent but loses to any serious heavyweight of the past. Fury and Wlad are similar in level. We saw a prime Fury edge a decision over an ageing and always overated Wlad, so I rank them the same.

wilder vs fury is a great matchup because Wilder makes fury look good by being so bad at boxing, and Furys weak to average chin gives Wilder a fighting chance. Because the stakes are high they bring the best out of eachother a fight harder.

Today!

It's as bad as it has ever been.

Think of everything you ever expected from a President of the United States and then look at Donald Trump.

Think of everything you expect from the HW Champion of the World, both in and out the ring, and then look at Tyson Fury.

We are at the bottom, but both the USA and Prize Fighting will be back, you'll see.

[Nash out]

Nash is the most ignorant twit who has even visited the forum, let alone posted regularly. I mean this chick knows nothing. I thought everyone already realized this. They still answer her just as if she warrants a response.

Nash appreciates the kind words and especially likes the use of the word twit. Nash out. Nash has had a busy day dusting inside the Boxingscene Hall of Fame, but he is now done and is pleased with his work.