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  • Stoppage
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    #11
    Originally posted by terrio
    I am going to have to go with Sugar Ray Robinson. And if you are just picking him because he was the champ for so long, go watch some of his videos (Not the greatest quality), it's awesome to watch how good this guy was.
    Believe me, I know this guy was great. I was just hesitant on putting him because he was a five time middleweight champion and I wasn't sure if he should belong on this welterweight list.

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    • nachorjj
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      #12
      I go with srl

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      • Benncollinsaad
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        #13
        Robinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American! SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.

        Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.

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        • BigMacFoster
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          #14
          Who do you think? (The real)Sugar Ray Leonard obviously.

          And where on earth is Donald Curry on that list? Pipino Cuevas?

          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
          Shane who? Just kidding. He's def in top ten. But not sure if he's top 5.

          Then where do you place Vernon Forrest Forrest? The man who beat the living **** out of Mosley the first time and had Mosley to terrified to even open up during their rematch.

          Mosley has a win over De La Hoya and Margarito and nothing else at welterweight,A very overrated fighter who for so long has gotten away with being so one dimensional and clueless in the ring.

          Before Margarito,All Mosley did was look like **** and look for the one punch knockout every single time he fought,He would literally wait for his opponent to throw a jab just so he could take it.


          It's like those weird ****s who gain sexual pleasure from physical punishment,Mosley got his pleasure from eating jabs all night long.



          Originally posted by Stoppage
          Believe me, I know this guy was great. I was just hesitant on putting him because he was a five time middleweight champion and I wasn't sure if he should belong on this welterweight list.

          It is possible to be successful at several different weight classes,No fighter(unless their a heavyweight) is limited to one weight class

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          • them_apples
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            #15
            Accomplishments wise I'm going with SRR, on a who beats the most out of the bunch basis....I might edge it to Leonard.

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            • TheGreatA
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              #16
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
              Robinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American! SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.

              Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.
              LaMotta and Maxim weren't welterweights though. In fact both of them outweighed Robinson by more than 15 pounds at the time Ray fought them.

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              • Stoppage
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                #17
                Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                Robinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American! SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.

                Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.
                You have to do research before you make these kind of replies.

                Robinson beat LaMotta four out of the five times they fought. LaMotta was a middleweight and Robinson was a welterweight, when Lamotta beat Robinson. That's two weight classes apart.

                As for the Joey Maxim fight, he was winning the fight until he fainted due to heat. It was so hot in the arena that even the referee fainted and they had to bring a new one in.

                You gotta remember that they fought a lot more often than fighters today. An average champion nowadays fights maybe two or a three times a year. These guys sometimes fought once or twice a month.

                Originally posted by BigMacFoster
                And where on earth is Donald Curry on that list? Pipino Cuevas?
                There's a maximum of 10 poll options. If you think there's a better welterweight that's not named then vote "other" and reply saying who.

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                • BigMacFoster
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                  #18
                  I don't think Donald Curry is the greatest Welterweight ever,But he has a much stronger argument than the likes of Oscar De La Hoya,Pernell Whitaker and certainly Shane Mosley has.


                  I don't think Donald Curry is the greatest Welterweight ever,But he has a much stronger argument than the likes of Oscar De La Hoya,Pernell Whitaker and certainly Shane Mosley has.


                  Originally posted by Stoppage
                  As for the Joey Maxim fight, he was winning the fight until he fainted due to heat. It was so hot in the arena that even the referee fainted and they had to bring a new one in.

                  Not that Maxim was a Welterweight anyway.Howvever Robinson got beat that day,Doesn't matter if he was winning,He failed to come out for the 14th round,Thus ending on a TKO victory for Joey Maxim.


                  Maxim also fought in that heat




                  Originally posted by mrboxer
                  curry and cuevas are not even in my top 100

                  I don't think you can even list 100 welterweights
                  Last edited by BigMacFoster; 09-15-2009, 03:06 PM.

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                    #19
                    curry and cuevas are not even in my top 100

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mrboxer
                      curry and cuevas are not even in my top 100
                      To be honest that is probably a point in their favour.
                      When are you going to honur us with this top 100 I know who isn't on it but ~I'm very curious as to who is?

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