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Robinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American!SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.
Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.
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Who do you think? (The real)Sugar Ray Leonard obviously.
And where on earth is Donald Curry on that list? Pipino Cuevas?
Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View PostShane who?Just kidding. He's def in top ten. But not sure if he's top 5.
Then where do you place Vernon Forrest Forrest? The man who beat the living **** out of Mosley the first time and had Mosley to terrified to even open up during their rematch.
Mosley has a win over De La Hoya and Margarito and nothing else at welterweight,A very overrated fighter who for so long has gotten away with being so one dimensional and clueless in the ring.
Before Margarito,All Mosley did was look like **** and look for the one punch knockout every single time he fought,He would literally wait for his opponent to throw a jab just so he could take it.
It's like those weird ****s who gain sexual pleasure from physical punishment,Mosley got his pleasure from eating jabs all night long.
Originally posted by Stoppage View PostBelieve me, I know this guy was great. I was just hesitant on putting him because he was a five time middleweight champion and I wasn't sure if he should belong on this welterweight list.
It is possible to be successful at several different weight classes,No fighter(unless their a heavyweight) is limited to one weight class
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Accomplishments wise I'm going with SRR, on a who beats the most out of the bunch basis....I might edge it to Leonard.
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Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View PostRobinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American!SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.
Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.
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Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View PostRobinson lost to La Motta. Why was he so great? He also lost to Joey Maxim. These guys don't exactly have perfect records. And this was when? 50 years ago? I think is nonsense when people say THIS MAN was the greatest boxer ever. There is no such thing. And its so American!SRR was def one of the best in history, but not THE best. Just because he's got more victories on his resume than other greats doesn't mean he was better than them.
Probably the wisest thing Mike Tyson ever said was "Nobody is the greatest fighter in the world". How true.
Robinson beat LaMotta four out of the five times they fought. LaMotta was a middleweight and Robinson was a welterweight, when Lamotta beat Robinson. That's two weight classes apart.
As for the Joey Maxim fight, he was winning the fight until he fainted due to heat. It was so hot in the arena that even the referee fainted and they had to bring a new one in.
You gotta remember that they fought a lot more often than fighters today. An average champion nowadays fights maybe two or a three times a year. These guys sometimes fought once or twice a month.
Originally posted by BigMacFoster View PostAnd where on earth is Donald Curry on that list? Pipino Cuevas?
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I don't think Donald Curry is the greatest Welterweight ever,But he has a much stronger argument than the likes of Oscar De La Hoya,Pernell Whitaker and certainly Shane Mosley has.
I don't think Donald Curry is the greatest Welterweight ever,But he has a much stronger argument than the likes of Oscar De La Hoya,Pernell Whitaker and certainly Shane Mosley has.
Originally posted by Stoppage View PostAs for the Joey Maxim fight, he was winning the fight until he fainted due to heat. It was so hot in the arena that even the referee fainted and they had to bring a new one in.
Not that Maxim was a Welterweight anyway.Howvever Robinson got beat that day,Doesn't matter if he was winning,He failed to come out for the 14th round,Thus ending on a TKO victory for Joey Maxim.
Maxim also fought in that heat
Originally posted by mrboxer View Postcurry and cuevas are not even in my top 100
I don't think you can even list 100 welterweightsLast edited by BigMacFoster; 09-15-2009, 03:06 PM.
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