Top Boxing Writer Ever?

[markusmod]

Sure, Hauser is good.

It makes sense that the Golden Age of Journalism would have cultivated a cadre of writers to shame today's acolytes of print. Reading some of those guys was actually exciting, instead of merely an exercise to extract information.

We must admit, however, that sensationalism was the order of the day in the Golden Age. You cannot let facts get in the way of good sensationalism. So along comes the next batch of quill drivers. They want a new way. They choose what they see as facts, over sheer excitement.

What did you think of guys like Mike Katz, George Kimball and Jack Welsh?

[QueensburyRules]

What did you think of guys like Mike Katz, George Kimball and Jack Welsh?

- - Last pipsqueak I heared from Katz was breaking his cane over the noggin of a rival ol'git on the press floor. Granny knitting level stuff.

[markusmod]

- - Last pipsqueak I heared from Katz was breaking his cane over the noggin of a rival ol'git on the press floor. Granny knitting level stuff.

I think, last I heard, he moved from Vegas back to NYC to live with his daughter

[The Old LefHook]

- - Last pipsqueak I heared from Katz was breaking his cane over the noggin of a rival ol'git on the press floor. Granny knitting level stuff.

Don't really know them. Probably read something by Katz.

[Willie Pep 229]

Don't really know them. Probably read something by Katz.

Sports writer, mostly boxing, for The New York Times. Also to contributed the boxing rags (KO; The Ring) in the 90s and 00 years.

A good reporter, not ****** by any means, but not literary.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Jeffrey T Sammons Beyond the Ring arrived brand spanking new save for a fold in the front cover where I'd guess it got pinched in a scrum of books being dumped or loaded.

I always do a thumb thru before reading the introduction, and first off he's painting DKing as some kind of noble black pioneer paying black fighters more than white promoters, so that's a red flag warning in what otherwise seems to be well written and attributed in my brief scan. Looks meaty enough to hold my attention, so like in 8th grade, my book report will be forthcoming.

- - OK, while the book is indeed incredibly meaty, Sammons has near zero literary style, and most of his assertions are unattributed opinions that tend to have a "run on" characteristic. At one point I skipped a vast section trying to escape his blizzard uses of Racism and Racism that no "historian" should be using like spam.

And indeed, the major red flags seem are he's not a boxing fan who watches fights and doesn't seemed to have followed the biggest name of his era, Ali. His coverage of New Orleans/Louisiana in early boxing history is seminal, and in particular Joe Louis.

He ignores that Chuvalo on 17 days noticed bulled Ali around the ring while wrecking his body so bad that Ali went to the hospital plssing blood. Then he ignores Patterson's herniated back, and then compounds by saying Ali hated Terrell for not calling him his ****** name never mind they were best friends who were complicit in staging the "What's my name" brawl in Astro Hall prior to their Astrodome fight.

[billeau2]

Sure, Hauser is good.

It makes sense that the Golden Age of Journalism would have cultivated a cadre of writers to shame today's acolytes of print. Reading some of those guys was actually exciting, instead of merely an exercise to extract information.

We must admit, however, that sensationalism was the order of the day in the Golden Age. You cannot let facts get in the way of good sensationalism. So along comes the next batch of quill drivers. They want a new way. They choose what they see as facts, over sheer excitement.

Writing has gone more and more into consise, short sentences... Everything should read like a Hemmingway Novel, so a smart 2nd grader can read the short sentences... A far cry from when people used semi colons, a good sentence could be a paragraph long... etc.

Making writing more functional is one of those things that sounds great at the time... sort a like "square wheels are really more stabile." or like the inventor of Fentnyl (yes it was invented by an Asian Chemist at University of MD, now deceased), deciding to "just taste a little." It remains to be seen the residual affects of this functionality.

[The Old LefHook]

If you make it into the public domain and are still famous--I guess you made it as a writer.

[QueensburyRules]

[QUOTE=QueensburyRules;n31305381]- - Jeffrey T Sammons Beyond the Ring arrived brand spanking new save for a fold in the front cover where I'd guess it got pinched in a scrum of books being dumped or loaded.

I always do a thumb thru before reading the introduction, and first off he's painting DKing as some kind of noble black pioneer paying black fighters more than white promoters, so that's a red flag warning in what otherwise seems to be well written and attributed in my brief scan. Looks meaty enough to hold my attention, so like in 8th grade, my book report will be forthcoming.

- - OK, while the book is indeed incredibly meaty, Sammons has near zero literary style, and most of his assertions are unattributed opinions that tend to have a "run on" characteristic. At one point I skipped a vast section trying to escape his blizzard uses of Racism and Racism that no "historian" should be using like spam.

And indeed, the major red flags seem are he's not a boxing fan who watches fights and doesn't seemed to have followed the biggest name of his era, Ali. His coverage of New Orleans/Louisiana in early boxing history is seminal, and in particular Joe Louis.

He ignores that Chuvalo on 17 days noticed bulled Ali around the ring while wrecking his body so bad that Ali went to the hospital plssing blood. Then he ignores Patterson's herniated back, and then compounds by saying Ali hated Terrell for not calling him his ****** name never mind they were best friends who were complicit in staging the "What's my name" brawl in Astro Hall prior to their Astrodome fight.

[travestyny]

- - Jeffrey T Sammons Beyond the Ring arrived brand spanking new save for a fold in the front cover where I'd guess it got pinched in a scrum of books being dumped or loaded.

I always do a thumb thru before reading the introduction, and first off he's painting DKing as some kind of noble black pioneer paying black fighters more than white promoters, so that's a red flag warning in what otherwise seems to be well written and attributed in my brief scan. Looks meaty enough to hold my attention, so like in 8th grade, my book report will be forthcoming.

- - OK, while the book is indeed incredibly meaty, Sammons has near zero literary style, and most of his assertions are unattributed opinions that tend to have a "run on" characteristic. At one point I skipped a vast section trying to escape his blizzard uses of Racism and Racism that no "historian" should be using like spam.

And indeed, the major red flags seem are he's not a boxing fan who watches fights and doesn't seemed to have followed the biggest name of his era, Ali. His coverage of New Orleans/Louisiana in early boxing history is seminal, and in particular Joe Louis.

He ignores that Chuvalo on 17 days noticed bulled Ali around the ring while wrecking his body so bad that Ali went to the hospital plssing blood. Then he ignores Patterson's herniated back, and then compounds by saying Ali hated Terrell for not calling him his ****** name never mind they were best friends who were complicit in staging the "What's my name" brawl in Astro Hall prior to their Astrodome fight.

Pardon the interruption. What happened to our bet, Queen? I guess you backed down since your only source took the information down after WIllie Pep told them of their error.


Get your caretakers to tuck you in. Oh...and thanks for bowing down to me. When you're feeling brave enough to accept the bet, you let me know, ok? I won't hold my breath since I'm sure you know now that you are wrong with no source left to provide as proof.