Heavyweight Champ Of The Ten Foot Ring

[The Old LefHook]

Is this the one setting where we ALL agree that that Wilt doesn't have a chance?


Favs must be short powerfull sluggers. Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier, Tyson.

You may be right, because Foreman might not be able to sustain a pure slugging war, if his early punches did not fell Rocky & his ilk.

[The Old LefHook]

I would expect Chuvalo to probably do better in this format than in standard boxing. He reached all the way to world class in standard format. He will probably still not be the champ however.

Another who might do well is Walcott. One known fighter said Joe was the strongest man he ever faced (can't remember who). We normally do not think of Joe that way. But just look at the upper body held up by those bird legs. His terrific moves were small and compact, capable of being exercised in the abbreviated ring.

[billeau2]

Is this the one setting where we ALL agree that that Wilt doesn't have a chance?


Favs must be short powerfull sluggers. Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier, Tyson.

[billeau2]

I would expect Chuvalo to probably do better in this format than in standard boxing. He reached all the way to world class in standard format. He will probably still not be the champ however.

Another who might do well is Walcott. One known fighter said Joe was the strongest man he ever faced (can't remember who). We normally do not think of Joe that way. But just look at the upper body held up by those bird legs. His terrific moves were small and compact, capable of being exercised in the abbreviated ring.

Im thinking this through... The ten foot ring is not such an issue... Lets say we did this tomorrow. Well... they took away the championship rounds, the rounds that the punchers often need to catch their opponent, so why not even the situation and make a ring accomodation for the punchers?

But clinching is another matter entirely. The problem being essentially that there is smart clinching and clinching simply to avoid fighting and its not a given that they can easily be separated out. First thought that occurs to me: If you remove all clinching you make boxing further removed from combat and even more a sport. Also a lot of inside positioning, and fighting involves clinching. Its important to remember that in grappling one needs to touch an opponent to know where he is, what he is doing, and where he is going... when we are punching at each other and are at grips, there is no way to handle oneself without some form of a grapple.

What I might suggest is the following: make a distinction between constructive grappling and clinching. So for example, Lefty is shoulder to shoulder with me and I force my head against his shoulder while pushing on his other punching arm... this is constructive as it protects me, it allows me to know when his punch is coming, and I can retaliate. Now, same scenario but this time we are shoulder to shoulder and I simply grab Lefty with both hands... this is not constructive, it is only preventative and does so in a way that flaunts the purpose of the contest.

[The Old LefHook]

You gotta appreciate how Kubrat Pulev used a small space at Trilogy Triad hybrid rules show.

Not familiar with it.

[Willow The Wisp]

Not familiar with it.

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[Willie Pep 229]

You gotta appreciate how Kubrat Pulev used a small space at Trilogy Triad hybrid rules show.

The hybrid rules seems interesting but to me the triangular ring seems a pointless marketing novelty.

Can you educate me why it's used and what difference it makes?

P.S. That was a brutal video where the announcer keeps talking about 'respect' but keeps playing the brutal KO over and over. How about a little respect for the beaten fighter? One viewing would have made the point. Felt like I was watching a disguised advertisement, pretending to be editorial.

[The Old LefHook]

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Thanks. I watched that through.

[The Old LefHook]

The hybrid rules seems interesting but to me the triangular ring seems a pointless marketing novelty.

Can you educate me why it's used and what difference it makes?

P.S. That was a brutal video where the announcer keeps talking about 'respect' but keeps playing the brutal KO over and over. How about a little respect for the beaten fighter? One viewing would have made the point. Felt like I was watching a disguised advertisement, pretending to be editorial.

I don't know anything about the other rules, but the triangular ring may have been reasoned out correctly. After all, the referee is going to need somewhere to stand where he is not constantly clobbered or in the mix-up himself like the ref in Pep/Saddler IV.

A ring that was an equilateral triangle would yield the same square footage as the 10x10 ring, but with three sides of about 15' 2", which gives the poor ref somewhere to be and the opponent somewhere to escape to.

[Willow The Wisp]

It was semi-interesting and a little ******. I felt for Frank Mir. Mostly a brilliant sub grappler (Messed up the vaunted Brock Lesnar in their first meeting with a nifty heel hook right outta Humbolt, a UFC champion), Mir has worked hard on his Boxing for years and years in his quest for well roundedness, and ranks in the best dozen MMA rules heavyweights all-time (Modern MMA = Short time, granted). He was convinced that with standing grappling allowed, the small gloves and small ring space he had it figued out. Pulev, still a top 20 guy, only had to clip him as his errand, and clip him he did. Zoinks!. If Pulev had wanted to, he could have murdered Mir. Weird.