Movie on boxing legend Willie Pep being made by Leonardo DiCaprio’s company. A longtime CT trainer is prepping actor.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Not saying Sackler produced a great work, it had all those failings you mentioned because it was intended to be a fictional character, not JJohnson.

End of the day it was a seminal, influential black cultural film that floated the petticoats of ******* whites and blacks in the day not to mention making James Earl into an Icon of American actors above most all.

I disagree that it was meant to be fiction - was Inherit the Wind meant to be fiction? Of course not. Henry Dummond was Clarence Darrow: Matthew Brady was William Jennings Bryan; E. K. Hornbeck was H. L. Mencken; Bertram T. Cates was John T. Scopes. - in the 1950s and 60s it was common for Broadway to change the names of the recent dead but no one thought the characters were anyone other than the historical ones.

Jack Jefferson was suspose to be recognized as Jack Johnson - they were not creating a fictional character nor a fictional story, just a sanitized one.

P.S. In Inheit the Wind they changed the names of the characters but actually used verbatim quotes from the Scopes Trial transcripts.

[QueensburyRules]

I disagree that it was meant to be fiction - was Inherit the Wind meant to be fiction? Of course not. Henry Dummond was Clarence Darrow: Matthew Brady was William Jennings Bryan; E. K. Hornbeck was H. L. Mencken; Bertram T. Cates was John T. Scopes. - in the 1950s and 60s it was common for Broadway to change the names of the recent dead but no one thought the characters were anyone other than the historical ones.

Jack Jefferson was suspose to be recognized as Jack Johnson - they were not creating a fictional character nor a fictional story, just a sanitized one.

P.S. In Inheit the Wind they changed the names of the characters but actually used verbatim quotes from the Scopes Trial transcripts.

- - Sanitized-fictionalized-blackized, tomato-tomahtoe-potato-pattootie...let's call the whole thing off.

[soul_survivor]

Two different points at issue . . .

Maybe I misunderstand - but didn't you state that they only make films about Black fighters when they have negative endings? I was wondering what films you were speaking of . . . True, but most of the paying audience is White (although that is changing) and Hollywood is always driven by box-office so of course most of the films are about White fighters . . . But what negative films about Black fighters are you speaking about?

Pick any documentary about Tyson.

Where's the movies on Hopkins who is straight inspirational.

[QueensburyRules]

Pick any documentary about Tyson.

Where's the movies on Hopkins who is straight inspirational.

- - U talking about Poppy signature vs Tito, or all the times he burst into tears to quit like a kicked cur?

[JAB5239]

- - U talking about Poppy signature vs Tito, or all the times he burst into tears to quit like a kicked cur?

I would venture a guess he's talking about Hopkins rags to riches, self redemption story.

[QueensburyRules]

I would venture a guess he's talking about Hopkins rags to riches, self redemption story.

- -Must be thousands since majority of boxers of note through history came from poverty.

Only Mike Tyson can said to have gone from rags to riches and back to rags faster than any fighter before him and now back onto an at least wealthy economic stature.

[JAB5239]

- -Must be thousands since majority of boxers of note through history came from poverty.

Only Mike Tyson can said to have gone from rags to riches and back to rags faster than any fighter before him and now back onto an at least wealthy economic stature.

I would say it's more about the self redemption of growing up in poverty, going to prison and redeeming himself in society by becoming a successful fighter and businessman.

[QueensburyRules]

I would say it's more about the self redemption of growing up in poverty, going to prison and redeeming himself in society by becoming a successful fighter and businessman.

- - Businessman?

Being Oscar's lackey?

Mike's supposedly made a few mil investing in legalized marijuana and cbd or whatever the abbreviations are for juana oils are.

[JAB5239]

- - Businessman?

Being Oscar's lackey?

Mike's supposedly made a few mil investing in legalized marijuana and cbd or whatever the abbreviations are for juana oils are.

From where he came from to where he is now is the proof of his success. And that you are here degrading that success only shows he is much more accomplished in life than yourself.

[QueensburyRules]

From where he came from to where he is now is the proof of his success. And that you are here degrading that success only shows he is much more accomplished in life than yourself.

- - Only thing I ever wanted out of Poppy was to beat him up and make him cry and quit.

I'll let you do the wet dreaming about his accomplishments.