15 Rounds versus 12... Opinions? Important/ not important?

[HOUDINI563]

Very important. Just like it’s easy to be called a champion and easy to be called a contender it’s also easy to get into condition to fight for an easy championship. Throw the championship distance out the window.

[Anthony342]

I don't think less rounds is more safe. A lot of enhancements for "safety" create their own problems. Bigger gloves let people hit with more force with little regard to hand injuries, head gear encourages more gross amounts of contact, etc.

An excellent puncher in top condition like Louis for example, will use the rounds to his advantage, like any fighter would. It shouldn't be a viable strategy to go all out early and then hope for the best lol.

The real injuries tend to occur in the lighter divisions where fighters suffer multiple punches, more frequently, as far as I can tell... I mean I have no special data source for that so I could be wrong.

Yeah for Louis but for someone like Foreman it seemed to help. I'm talking more about guys that go for the KO right away and try to get their opponents out of there quickly. You see a lot of guys these days that barely have the cardio for 12, some look spent after 10 and could be near death after 15. Remember the Gatti-Ward trilogy? All 3 of those were 10 rounds and who knows if both of those guys make it to the finish line if those fights were any longer, those were wars.

Some changes for safety are good though, like having scorecards and not fighting 45 rounds until someone in knocked out or brain damaged before newspaper reporters decide a winner, not letting fights go on for excessively long amounts of time. Unless you like seeing stuff like Roy Jones vs. Richard Hall.

[QueensburyRules]

Yeah for Louis but for someone like Foreman it seemed to help. I'm talking more about guys that go for the KO right away and try to get their opponents out of there quickly. You see a lot of guys these days that barely have the cardio for 12, some look spent after 10 and could be near death after 15. Remember the Gatti-Ward trilogy? All 3 of those were 10 rounds and who knows if both of those guys make it to the finish line if those fights were any longer, those were wars.

Some changes for safety are good though, like having scorecards and not fighting 45 rounds until someone in knocked out or brain damaged before newspaper reporters decide a winner, not letting fights go on for excessively long amounts of time. Unless you like seeing stuff like Roy Jones vs. Richard Hall.

- -I don't see fungible, nontransparent scorecards that the public never sees an advantage, nor the miserable 10point must system designed by cretins with little understanding of what a fight or a boxing match really is.

[Anthony342]

I feel like 15 rounds is too long. Even if you don’t care about boxers’ health, I’d still argue that a lot of fights start to feel like they’re starting to drag on if they go over 12. (Not saying there aren’t any great 15 round fights, that’d be silly)
The only possible compromise I can imagine settling is allowing 15 rounds but reducing the rounds from 3 minutes to 2 minutes in length.
Or possibly allowing an extra tie breaker round if the judges rule it a draw.

There ya go, agreed. That or 10 rounders are fine to me. So the punchers can go all out throwing haymakers from the get go.

[South Champion]

The interesting thing is that in the old days, fighters fought 15 rounders AND they had less time off between fights. Some of these champs have 1 fight a year.

I think 12 rounders are better, but champions should have less time between fights because of the less round. Canelo is about to have his 4th fight in an 11 month span, while it will be Plant's first fight in 10 months.

[The Old LefHook]

25 round no decision fights is the only true measure of a champion.

Boxing is a martial art deployed to win a prize fight, not meant to be an end unto itself.

The game is being degraded by the increasing emphasis placed on boxing technique over actual fighting. Worst yet is this recent, absurd emphasis on fighter safety.

If you are not going to try to KO your opponent best to return to the amateurs.

Livia's Address to the Gladiators, I Claudius

"These games are being degraded by the increasing use of professional tricks to stay alive, and I won’t have it. So put on a good show, and there will be plenty of money and gold plate for the living and a decent burial for the dead, and if not, I’ll break this guild up, and send the lot of you to the mines in Numidia."

And she would have.

[markusmod]

The interesting thing is that in the old days, fighters fought 15 rounders AND they had less time off between fights. Some of these champs have 1 fight a year.

I think 12 rounders are better, but champions should have less time between fights because of the less round. Canelo is about to have his 4th fight in an 11 month span, while it will be Plant's first fight in 10 months.

Most of these guys are unable to have energy by the twelfth

[Anthony342]

Most of these guys are unable to have energy by the twelfth

Exactly my point. That's why I say 10.

[markusmod]

Exactly my point. That's why I say 10.

Wilder was dead tired by round six.

[Anthony342]

Wilder was dead tired by round six.

As Dice Clay once said when doing his Deniro impression "See what I'm sayin?"