Prime Ray Robinson WOULD NOT beat Prime Roy Jones Jr

[The Old LefHook]

Charles vs RJJ would be a great super fight

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[markusmod]

Prime RJJ would be too big for Robinson. Robinson, you could argue, was the greater fighter, but he was a natural welter weight in his prime. RJJ was a natural super middle in his prime. And if RJJ was around in Robinson's time, he would have been a legit light heavyweight and may have even ventured into heavyweight, being a worthy contender for the light heavyweight and heavyweight crowns.

I can't see a natural welter beating a prime RJJ. If you could drain RJJ down to like 155 or so, perhaps I could see Robinson beating him. But middle weight or above, no. With RJJ's size and strength advantage combined with his stellar physical gifts, that's a hurdle too big to overcome for a prime welterweight.

I do agree with Ben on this one.

[Willie Pep 229]

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[Anthony342]

I can answer that: No way in hell could Roy beat a prime Ezzard Charles. As for Robinson, when Robinson was fighting weigh-ins were same day: Jones would never have fought him if he wasn't allowed to weigh-in the day prior, then balloon back up in weight by fight time.

Ps: Super-middle isn't a legitimate weight-class. Old School Eight or it don't rate

Tell em Poet.

[Nash out]

In all honesty, SRR's resume is garbage. He lost the first fight to LaMotta, then beat him about fifty times, asides from that, who did he beat? His resume would not fly today, but as always, it's cool to like the old guys! Could SRR beat current day Robert Guerrero? That's a tough question. Nash out, speaker of the truth.

[Poet682006]

^^^^^ I see the phuck heads still come in here running their cum dumpsters

[billeau2]

U saw film of that fight, didn't U?

Hahhahhaa lol if people knew the reference...

[billeau2]

Prime RJJ would be too big for Robinson. Robinson, you could argue, was the greater fighter, but he was a natural welter weight in his prime. RJJ was a natural super middle in his prime. And if RJJ was around in Robinson's time, he would have been a legit light heavyweight and may have even ventured into heavyweight, being a worthy contender for the light heavyweight and heavyweight crowns.

I can't see a natural welter beating a prime RJJ. If you could drain RJJ down to like 155 or so, perhaps I could see Robinson beating him. But middle weight or above, no. With RJJ's size and strength advantage combined with his stellar physical gifts, that's a hurdle too big to overcome for a prime welterweight.

Now Unk... You done talked yourself out of the fight. Yes, the size difference... and as Starship Trooper said, same day weigh ins... I would maybe give Jones light heavy BUT his chin did not stand up and guys like Robinson and Charles tend to hit back... a lot! Even when they get beat, they hit a lot. Robinson to some had two primes and was a fabulous light weight, as he went up past welter he did maintain his gifts.

heres the thing. Jones set up a lot of his stuff through feints. In some ways he even used the feint like a jab... Guys fell for the feint, until Tarver didn't. Back in the days of Robinson the feint was standard, guys were used to them. I doubt Roy could use the feint to such an advantage.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Get it straight, boys, Robby's prime ended in the Joey Maxim debacle where he almost died of heat exhaustion. He took a couple of years off and returned to a very competitive middle division where he earned his most accolades with the public and media, but took most all his losses.

Roy turned pro at 154 where he was already fighting as a traditional lightheavy in the ring. Ray turned pro at 130. The OP proposes a bogus match up of names, not legit weight classes. Might as well used Willie Pep who boxed Ray in the amas as well as an elder exhibition in their end days.