Prime Ray Robinson WOULD NOT beat Prime Roy Jones Jr

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  • uncle ben
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    Prime Ray Robinson WOULD NOT beat Prime Roy Jones Jr

    Prime RJJ would be too big for Robinson. Robinson, you could argue, was the greater fighter, but he was a natural welter weight in his prime. RJJ was a natural super middle in his prime. And if RJJ was around in Robinson's time, he would have been a legit light heavyweight and may have even ventured into heavyweight, being a worthy contender for the light heavyweight and heavyweight crowns.

    I can't see a natural welter beating a prime RJJ. If you could drain RJJ down to like 155 or so, perhaps I could see Robinson beating him. But middle weight or above, no. With RJJ's size and strength advantage combined with his stellar physical gifts, that's a hurdle too big to overcome for a prime welterweight.
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    #2
    Originally posted by uncle ben
    Prime RJJ would be too big for Robinson. Robinson, you could argue, was the greater fighter, but he was a natural welter weight in his prime. RJJ was a natural super middle in his prime. And if RJJ was around in Robinson's time, he would have been a legit light heavyweight and may have even ventured into heavyweight, being a worthy contender for the light heavyweight and heavyweight crowns.

    I can't see a natural welter beating a prime RJJ. If you could drain RJJ down to like 155 or so, perhaps I could see Robinson beating him. But middle weight or above, no. With RJJ's size and strength advantage combined with his stellar physical gifts, that's a hurdle too big to overcome for a prime welterweight.
    Robinson is arguably the greatest p4p fighter ever. Arguably. That said, I agree with you.

    The real question......could prime Roy beat prime Ezzard Charles?

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      #3
      Originally posted by JAB5239

      Robinson is arguably the greatest p4p fighter ever. Arguably. That said, I agree with you.

      The real question......could prime Roy beat prime Ezzard Charles?
      I can answer that: No way in hell could Roy beat a prime Ezzard Charles. As for Robinson, when Robinson was fighting weigh-ins were same day: Jones would never have fought him if he wasn't allowed to weigh-in the day prior, then balloon back up in weight by fight time.

      Ps: Super-middle isn't a legitimate weight-class. Old School Eight or it don't rate

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        #4
        Originally posted by uncle ben
        Prime RJJ would be too big for Robinson. Robinson, you could argue, was the greater fighter, but he was a natural welter weight in his prime. RJJ was a natural super middle in his prime. And if RJJ was around in Robinson's time, he would have been a legit light heavyweight and may have even ventured into heavyweight, being a worthy contender for the light heavyweight and heavyweight crowns.

        I can't see a natural welter beating a prime RJJ. If you could drain RJJ down to like 155 or so, perhaps I could see Robinson beating him. But middle weight or above, no. With RJJ's size and strength advantage combined with his stellar physical gifts, that's a hurdle too big to overcome for a prime welterweight.
        - -What's next wif U, prime Willie Pep can't beat SRR? Prime girl can't beat prime boy? U can't beat a bag of popcorn?

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          #5
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - -What's next wif U, prime Willie Pep can't beat SRR?
          U saw film of that fight, didn't U?

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            #6
            (2n)!=2kk=1to n T2k-1 does not compute with the premise of this thread, as shown by the sequence of oddly labeled triangular numbers multiplied together on the end. That is a pretty good word processor that can print that. Let us see if it can.
            Last edited by The Old LefHook; 09-05-2021, 12:44 AM.

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            • The Old LefHook
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              #7
              Would that Facebook's word processor could do near so well.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                U saw film of that fight, didn't U?
                ..........

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                  U saw film of that fight, didn't U?
                  - -Both the youthful fight and the ol'timer exhibition that makes U so butte hurt...

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                  • uncle ben
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Robinson is arguably the greatest p4p fighter ever. Arguably. That said, I agree with you.

                    The real question......could prime Roy beat prime Ezzard Charles?
                    Charles vs RJJ would be a great super fight

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