People should realize that Foreman never beat a technical skilled boxer on the level of Holmes... look at his record. He was beat by elite boxers Young and Ali... He was even losing badly to Moorer, an elite cruiser, when he managed his magic. Not taking away from that victory BTW... But the fact is Foreman is a bad match up for a elite technically accomplished boxer.
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Originally posted by billeau2 View PostPeople should realize that Foreman never beat a technical skilled boxer on the level of Holmes... look at his record. He was beat by elite boxers Young and Ali... He was even losing badly to Moorer, an elite cruiser, when he managed his magic. Not taking away from that victory BTW... But the fact is Foreman is a bad match up for a elite technically accomplished boxer.
Lefty Moorer 30 lbs bigger, faster, stronger, more accomplished, and more importantly a KO artist. He was never a cruiser. Do U even follow the sport and watch the fights? Ali never did well against the few lefties he fought. Moorer KOs him just because of that.
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After the first Holyfield fight the boxing rags were calling Moorer a U Guy (Unbeatable) - that may be the shortest coronation of any of the previously 'unbeatables.'
Sorry for the digression but I have always found our inclination to anoint fighters as unbeatable curious, especially when there is so much history that says there ain't no such guy. But for a while the 'experts' were even saying it about Moorer.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
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Lefty Moorer 30 lbs bigger, faster, stronger, more accomplished, and more importantly a KO artist. He was never a cruiser. Do U even follow the sport and watch the fights? Ali never did well against the few lefties he fought. Moorer KOs him just because of that.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View PostJimmy Young outboxed a distracted Foreman
Reportedly, he was absolutely drained coming into the changing room after the fight, and started to hear voices
from above. In a condition like that, the brain can play games with you.
I have nothing against religion. It is, most likely, essential to us as we know our time in life is very limited.
What happens next?
So probably his defeat to Young, and Foreman becoming a man of church, preaching, did encourage a lot of
people to fight on with their own lives.
[Jimmy was sacrificed, however. His post-career life is no fun reading.]
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Originally posted by Ben Bolt View Post
What I’ve been wondering, if Foreman had flattened Young in the early stages, had he ever become a priest?
Reportedly, he was absolutely drained coming into the changing room after the fight, and started to hear voices
from above. In a condition like that, the brain can play games with you.
I have nothing against religion. It is, most likely, essential to us as we know our time in life is very limited.
What happens next?
So probably his defeat to Young, and Foreman becoming a man of church, preaching, did encourage a lot of
people to fight on with their own lives.
[Jimmy was sacrificed, however. His post-career life is no fun reading.]
The Devil masquerading in the hyperventilated façade of DKing, who has ruined more heavyweights than he has feet and hands to count, had set up Foreman to lose. Had he won, he'd still be within the long term legal grips of King. Without his vision and subsequent religious dedication, George, who in spite of his higher philosophical musings for an impoverished, petty crime thug black kid background, he'd still be caricatured in the boxing media as a surly bully Sonny Liston Jr beating up kids for their lunch money.
What we saw in his comeback was not only the mental and spiritual maturation of a Great, but also the untapped potential of his terminated youth at the peak of his athletic prime.LITTLE JOE likes this.
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Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View PostHolmes for sure. The two best boxers George fought beat him soundly. Holmes was a much more complete fighter than Young.
Holmes TKO 11.
At no time when he and George were active was he even in the conversation in Ring Rankings, a busted flush...WHOOSH...Nobody beat George soundly though Tommy was the only one who figured out how to outpoint a ponderous mid 40s fighter by then with little damage. He ruined fighters as their formerly stellar records show after he fought them.
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Originally posted by Ben Bolt View Post
What I’ve been wondering, if Foreman had flattened Young in the early stages, had he ever become a priest?
[Jimmy was sacrificed, however. His post-career life is no fun reading.]
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Originally posted by uncle ben View PostPriests are Catholic or Orthodox. George Foreman is a Pentecostal Protestant.
Foreman is pentecostal?
They have such a strick dogma it is hard to see how Freeda was allowed to box. Plus the photos of his daughters show an appearance that doesn't look very Pentecostal.
But he is some sort of ordained Christian minister.
I don't think Christians like the word 'Protestant' much anymore. They see themseleves as gnostic (but they don't use the term) and are not protesting anything, so they say.
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