Light Welter, underrated?

[ShoulderRoll]

Was Tszyu the first to unify he whole division?

No.

He was the first in the division to hold 3 belts simultaneously in the 4-belt era, though.

[LeOoze]

Oscar and Floyd were amazing at 140

[DeeMoney]

Oscar and Floyd were amazing at 140

I always felt that 140 was/would have been May's best weight.

But its hard to evaluate either of those two at JrWW, as they only fought 3 fights apiece at the weight.

[Anthony342]

I've actually heard people call Tszyu the best ever.... no lie.

Whose the best at 140 then? Chavez? I'm not too familiar with the weight class myself.

[DeeMoney]

Whose the best at 140 then? Chavez? I'm not too familiar with the weight class myself.

Boxing Scene did a ranking about 15 years ago, here was their top 10

1) Antonio Cervantes
2) JCC
3) Pryor
4) Locche
5) Tszyu
6) Kid Berg
7) Barney Ross
8) Hatton
9) Eddie Perkins
10) Loi

[QueensburyRules]

- -And lightweight Pryor KOed Cervantes.

[markusmod]

Boxing Scene did a ranking about 15 years ago, here was their top 10

1) Antonio Cervantes
2) JCC
3) Pryor
4) Locche
5) Tszyu
6) Kid Berg
7) Barney Ross
8) Hatton
9) Eddie Perkins
10) Loi

That's a pretty good list.

[markusmod]

No.

He was the first in the division to hold 3 belts simultaneously in the 4-belt era, though.

That's true, but at the time the WBO was a non-entity. It was like the IBO

[Willie Pep 229]

That's true, but at the time the WBO was a non-entity. It was like the IBO

I agree you have to evaluate each situation separately- who was the WBO champion and was there a dispute?

The Ring Magazine tried over the decades several times to adjust to the multiple belt situation (and failed every time).

One attempt was to ignore belts altogether and only ID champions that their team held a consensus for - they ended up with more than half of the divisions having no champion, and then it stayed that way for months and months, and then they abandoned the effort.

So who was the WBO champion and was there a reasonable dispute worth having?

Historically speaking I think it is our call to make. The mere existence of a scantioning body doesn't trump our opinion.

[Marchegiano]

Boxing Scene did a ranking about 15 years ago, here was their top 10

1) Antonio Cervantes
2) JCC
3) Pryor
4) Locche
5) Tszyu
6) Kid Berg
7) Barney Ross
8) Hatton
9) Eddie Perkins
10) Loi

Been told Loi was super protected. Doesn't make him not top ten, I'm just wondering if you have any insight or opinion on it.