Larry Holmes, the man

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dynamite76
    Great fighter. Should have fought Thomas, Page, and had rematches with Williams and Witherspoon, but it is what it is.
    - -Coulda fought Big George but for being light in the loafers whenever George was active.

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      #22
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      Before I read his autobiography I didn't like Larry Holmes at all. I respected his career and talent, but I didn't think much about him as a person. It went back to his remarks about Rocky Marciano not being able to carry his jockstrap and my own Italian heritage. But after the book and reading more and more about him I found out what an accomplished person he was outside the ring as well as I'm, and what a great family man he is. Stumbled across this article today and it reminded me of all that.

      https://lehighvalleystyle.com/people.../larry-holmes/
      Does he still own all those businesses?

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      • JAB5239
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        #23
        Originally posted by Anthony342

        Does he still own all those businesses?
        I believe he owns a good portion of Easton Pennsylvania. He has done very well in real-estate.

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          #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - -Coulda fought Big George but for being light in the loafers whenever George was active.
          We had this discussion before - Holmes people nixed the idea of fighting Foreman I because Holmes was not yet ready for such a fight. That is not a duck that is smart management; the right decision.

          Later on Holmes II let his ego price himself out of a fight with Foreman II. Holmes was never close to Foreman II's popularity (gate appeal) and he deserved nothing close to purse parity with Foreman. Yet Holmes' ego just couldn't abide that and it cost hom a multi-million dollar payday.

          I don't believe Holmes ducked anyone out of fear. Champions believe they can beat anyone, it's akin to how they ended up with a belt around their waist to begin with.

          Too often posters on this forum only look at what occurred in the ring (records) and what they think SHOULD HAVE HAPPENRD, turning a Nelson eye to the political/social/economic, and timing, nuances that really drives the 'who will fight who' decisions.

          Few to no champions ever duck a fight because of fear; they all think they are unbeatable. Holmes believed he was, that's why he traded with Tyson. Becuse he was a true champion.

          Bonecrusher Smith wasn't that's why he spent all night grabbing.

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          • Queensbury Does rule
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            #25
            Big Lar wanted nothing to do with a Weaver rematch, Witherspoon rematch and a Snipes rematch. Better to fight no risk, low hanging fruit on Network TV like Marvis Frazier, Scott Frank, Evangelista, LeDoux, Cobb, Ocasio ,Leroy Jones, Rodriguez and Zanon. He did make lotsa money fighting low risk tomato cans.Might call it the " 3 Times a Year Tomato Can Tour". He wanted nothing to do with a pre coke Dokes, Witherspoon 2, Weaver 2 or the second incarnation of Big George. Oh he said he did but priced himself out thinking he was a big attraction that he never was. The Cooney fight was his only Superfight and Cooney was the attraction.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Queensbury Does rule
              Big Lar wanted nothing to do with a Weaver rematch, Witherspoon rematch and a Snipes rematch. Better to fight no risk, low hanging fruit on Network TV like Marvis Frazier, Scott Frank, Evangelista, LeDoux, Cobb, Ocasio ,Leroy Jones, Rodriguez and Zanon. He did make lotsa money fighting low risk tomato cans.Might call it the " 3 Times a Year Tomato Can Tour". He wanted nothing to do with a pre coke Dokes, Witherspoon 2, Weaver 2 or the second incarnation of Big George. Oh he said he did but priced himself out thinking he was a big attraction that he never was. The Cooney fight was his only Superfight and Cooney was the attraction.
              ^^^^^ Oh looky! A phony alt account! Guess where this one's going: That's right! Right into my ignore cesspool with his old account

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                #27
                Originally posted by StarshipTrooper

                ^^^^^ Oh looky! A phony alt account! Guess where this one's going: That's right! Right into my ignore cesspool with his old account
                lol. Queenie's brilliant plan foiled again and again and again........................" "................

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  I believe he owns a good portion of Easton Pennsylvania. He has done very well in real-estate.
                  - -Given he bought in when Pennsylvania was in industrial decline and given over the long haul real estate is the best investment that can be had, he's prob made 5-10x his investments.

                  Lar likes being the Big Cheese in a small pond as we know from his career and now likely weighs more than his nemesis Butterbean.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - -Given he bought in when Pennsylvania was in industrial decline and given over the long haul real estate is the best investment that can be had, he's prob made 5-10x his investments.

                    Lar likes being the Big Cheese in a small pond as we know from his career and now likely weighs more than his nemesis Butterbean.
                    So what you're really saying is he made great decisions and you're jealous. Got it!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by StarshipTrooper

                      ^^^^^ Oh looky! A phony alt account! Guess where this one's going: That's right! Right into my ignore cesspool with his old account
                      U all simply do not understand the brilliance of Queensbury Rules. All those diaper changes over the years and U rash spread to U brains.

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